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Offline Soulyss

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« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2004, 12:26:31 AM »
lol Wadke...

we'll see... I kinda like country hoping every few weeks... keeps the faces in green fresh and I kinda like that.  

As for the F6F not being a great turnier... if the speeds are right the F6F will turn with just about anything in the game.  It will hang with spits till the speeds get down below 225 or so.
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« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2004, 12:33:23 AM »
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i prefer the F4U-1 F4UC but thats just me


the F6F is slow its not fast its not a great turner its not great at anything and not good in some things


sorry its not a plane that will outrun the better turners  Spits own it

the LA5 comes to mind as a true plane with that abilty and will outrun the F6F in the dust and almost outturn by a hair


its a good plane tho but nothing uber nor great


Ummm, I have to disagree about spits owning the F6F.

There's not a snowball's chance in hell an La5 will come anywhere near an F6F in a sustained turn-fight.

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« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2004, 01:25:16 AM »
i have the fights are very close only when the stall speed gets realy slow that the F6F starts to realy pull away in turnrate

and the spitfire V does own it.


the F6F is not a great turner i tend to think as the Spit5 a6m hurr f4f as great turners while the F6F is a good turner but spit v does own it in everthing but armor and jabo  guns
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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2004, 02:10:43 AM »
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i have the fights are very close only when the stall speed gets realy slow that the F6F starts to realy pull away in turnrate

and the spitfire V does own it.


the F6F is not a great turner i tend to think as the Spit5 a6m hurr f4f as great turners while the F6F is a good turner but spit v does own it in everthing but armor and jabo  guns


You know the F6F has wonderfull manuevering flaps right? Unlike the Spits. If you start dropping flaps as you get slow and to help you over the top of loops you're going to eat most spits alive with some practice, all other factors being equal.

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« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2004, 07:55:28 AM »
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Adogg, don't give up now.

Aces High is not something thats mastered in a month or maybe even a year.

Find something that you enjoy, work at it.
Try a new plane at least once a week for a sortie, if for no other reason that to learn how to beat it.

And if your still frustrated, schedule an appointmen with a trainer to see where you need help.


Oh I'm not givin' up...my credit card balance is looking like it survived (well maybe survived is a little generous) a straffing run by a P38 loaded for bear. :D I'll be back, not to worry, was enjoying my final days for a while with some new planes and the F6f suddenly has turned into a real fun plane for some reason.

Landed two kills in one sitting with it last night as A6 was getting a Knit gang-banging. Not spectacular perhaps but a thrill for me.

:aok

Thanks for the discussion on the plane guys.

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« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2004, 09:25:41 AM »
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...What sets it apart from Spits and such is its excellent manuevering flaps.
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Which of course, it did not have in the real world.

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Re: manuevering flaps
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2004, 10:28:48 AM »
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Which of course, it did not have in the real world.

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It didn't?
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Re: manuevering flaps
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2004, 09:06:58 PM »
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Which of course, it did not have in the real world.

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F6F's DID have multiple position flaps. Check America's Hundred Thousand for the details.

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« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2004, 09:12:50 PM »
i tend to love to make spitfires spit fire (pun intended) in turn fights...the flaps are great and the thing can get slow like no other which makes it great for surprising people... Adogg if you want...i will let you fly in my hellcat a few times to show you some things:)

Disclaimer: This is my own opinion from my experiences... and your entitled to it :)

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« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2004, 09:35:59 PM »
Wadke,

Can you do that?  Let someone else fly with you in a single-seat fighter?  First I've heard of it.

Or are you just joshin'?

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« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2004, 10:20:13 PM »
Yeah, you can just observe.  I think its locked in pilot view.....

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« Reply #26 on: August 05, 2004, 07:38:22 AM »
You can join someone as observer in all planes.

Limitations are that you won't see his tracers, you won't see his throttle settings.

But you can learn a lot that way.

Just remember to always ask before hitting the join button.

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Re: Re: manuevering flaps
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2004, 07:51:24 AM »
Multiple position flaps are not necessarily manuevering flaps.

If you look at the layout of the f6, you see the flaps switch is a simple up/down toggle on the left hand side panel, behind the throttle quadrant. That is not a layout conducive to changing flap positions in the middle of a dog fight.

The manual also indicates the flaps won't deploy at all at speeds of 170 knots or more. In other words, they can't be used at the plane's corner velocity.

I am happy to be corrected, but I've never seen an F6 pilot discuss using these flaps in a combat situation.

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p.s. Of course I use these flaps in Aces all the time...


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F6F's DID have multiple position flaps. Check America's Hundred Thousand for the details.

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« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2004, 09:26:42 PM »
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i have the fights are very close only when the stall speed gets realy slow that the F6F starts to realy pull away in turnrate

and the spitfire V does own it.


the F6F is not a great turner i tend to think as the Spit5 a6m hurr f4f as great turners while the F6F is a good turner but spit v does own it in everthing but armor and jabo  guns


You're right, the F6F sucks.

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« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2004, 09:30:48 PM »
yep F6F suxx0r t3h b1g 0n3! and wadke and math(poopeater)man are no sk1llz hack5!!!!
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