Israel's involvement in Reagan's Libya raid and the demonization of Sadam

[streakeagle]

I was looking for the number of F-111s involved in the Libya raid and found this bizarre link:

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/libya.html

The article is too big to quote on the forum, but is worth reading in full.

I don't know what to think. It is believable, but so are many other conspiracy theories. I like Israel and admire it especially for its performance in the 1973 war. But if this is true, then it tarnishes my overall image of Israel quite a bit.

[demaw1]

Strike eagle.....

     I read 1st 2 paragraphs and no more.

     Free masons would be your first clue. Then look how it starts.Something like,I was raised to be a zionist,thinking Israel can do no wrong... Israel doesnt teach that... If you are young and you run into something on internet that shakes you up some on important things,dont come in here to find out or ask. Go to an adult you trust first. Dad ,mom rabbi,minster,i dont know someone. In truth you do not know anyone in here ,and there are some bad ombrias in here, as most anywhere. Anyway your chances of being told the truth is by someone that loves you or you trust.    just advice take it or leave it......good luck

[Sceadu]

Well, considering that the web site is primarily devoted to postulating a freemason conspiracy to rule the world, I'd take just about anything that they write with a giant salt lick.

[GRUNHERZ]

So israel fooled the USA to attack Saddam in 1991 by painting him as a bad guy through Mossad deceptions.  I suppose they also fooled Saddam to ivade Kuwait....

[streakeagle]

As far as I knew, Free Masons did rule the world to a great extent and only in recent decades did they lose so much of their power.

Free Masons invited me to an introductory meeting with a brief history of their accomplishments.

Among them, nearly every American President has been one.

One of their self-admitted worst internal conflicts was between MacArthur and Truman. They also note Benedict Arnold as being an infamous member.

Look at the pyramid with the eye on the dollar bill and tell me the Free Masons didn't rule this country when it originally formed.

But my question is to the truth of that link.

Because it is hosted by a looney anti-conspiracy website doesn't make it any more false than being reported by CNN and Fox would make it true. But how do you validate an individual's claim to be former Mossad?

[slimm50]

punt

[Sceadu]

Originally posted by streakeagle
As far as I knew, Free Masons did rule the world to a great extent and only in recent decades did they lose so much of their power.

Free Masons invited me to an introductory meeting with a brief history of their accomplishments.

Among them, nearly every American President has been one.

One of their self-admitted worst internal conflicts was between MacArthur and Truman. They also note Benedict Arnold as being an infamous member.

Look at the pyramid with the eye on the dollar bill and tell me the Free Masons didn't rule this country when it originally formed.

But my question is to the truth of that link.

Because it is hosted by a looney anti-conspiracy website doesn't make it any more false than being reported by CNN and Fox would make it true. But how do you validate an individual's claim to be former Mossad?

  I'm just saying you should take a skeptical view, especially in cases where massive secret conspiracies are concerned.  Conspiracy theories are a rather odd beast when it comes to logic.  Suspect conspiracy theories are easy to postulate and impossible to disprove.  The evidence is almost always lost, or secret or cvered up by the government of .  Conspiracies involving governments are particularly suspect.  Government are full of politicians. Politicians have big mouths.  Big mouths make large scale conspiracies involving governments improbable, if not impossible.  Watergate is a prime example that.

   Freemasons were fond of symbolism.  Most people don't know that the name Cincinnatti comes from freemasonry.  The fact that many leaders were freemasons doesn't lead to a conclusion that freemasonry is or was attempting to control the world.  The fact that many leaders were freemasons simply means that many leaders were freemasons.

   In the case of this self-described Mossad agent.  I'd tend to not believe someone who claims secret knowledge gleaned from being a member of a clandestine organization in order to support a conspiracy theory.  I'm no more likely to believe someone who claims membership in a secretive organization to "prove" their veracity than I am to believe that Chuck Berris of Gong Show fame was a hit man for the CIA - which is to say, not at all.

[demaw1]

Chuck barris?....hey you getting old to ....lol

[Arlo]

Originally posted by streakeagle
As far as I knew, Free Masons did rule the world to a great extent and only in recent decades did they lose so much of their power.

Lose their power? No, man. The Illuminati still *oof* *thud*

[bozon]

lol, good read, too bad it doesn't come in comic book form. Even if the details are true, the only thing it says is that american are stupid.

As the Mossad had hoped, the transmissions were deciphered by the Americans and construed as ample proof that the Libyans were active sponsors of terrorism.

The way it is displayed, the silly and easily manipulated Americans were used by the Mosad, but the wise and peaceful French and Spanish saw right through the cheap trick

when the same trick didn't work for Iraq, the mosad promissed unlimited supply of virgins to a bunch of Saudies if they fly a few planes into american monuments, thus throwing the silly americans into a world anti terror campaign. Again the wise French did not bite, although the Spanish fell for that one.

The Mosad f#cks up so badly lately, I won't be suprised if someone will start spreding that it's actually part of another devilish plan.

Bozon