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Offline Murdr

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System: Country is not accepting new pilots
« on: August 03, 2004, 10:44:45 PM »
I would like to see a message like this when you try to switch to the country that already has X number more pilots online than another country.  What should X be?  30 pilots?  15% more pilots?  I dont know.

I do know when one of the countries is being overrun, many log off out of frustration, and many also switch countries.  The switchers just magnify the difference in numbers.  It would help if there was a threshold that once reached would prohibit defecting to the advantaged side.

My playtime hours are a little flexible, so the issue isnt a deal breaker for me, but I can understand the persistant 'whine about the numbers' threads considering many can only have a finite time period of flying.

Just offering a suggestion as opposed to a whine.  Discuss.

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« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2004, 10:57:31 PM »
im sure people are coming in to tell you its there 15$

well its other peoples 15 to!

i feel HTC is not going to deal with the Numbers one sided stuff anyway
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2004, 11:04:03 PM »
Dont know about that.  What I proposed is a refinement of a suggestion by Morph, and HT was at least interested in the idea.

You can still switch countries to fly with buddies, but if it so happens that your buddies country is up by many pilots at that particular time, he has to come to you.  Hehe, and try moving an entire squad to the country that consistantly has numbers under a rule like this  

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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2004, 11:22:44 PM »
indeed, something needs to be done...i dont want the "current" rooks punished...i want the guys that think "oh i cant beat them, so ill join them" to be stopped.........

when it was 200vs160vs160 it was ok but now its like 200vs140vs100 and thats just dam right stupid.....

id say 25% lead would be a good figure to "lock" a country at because sometimes fighting off large numbers IS FUN, but not all the time :)

but then how does the server (or HTC manualy) work this out?

is it a week lock? or just that day? or maybe a whole tour? Should the country switch thing be set to a week instead of only 24hours?

should it average out? Because the last AHI tour it was slightly balanced....you'd have RJO on sunday, and them with 300vs 170 vs 170 or whatever but then on monday, you might only have 90 rooks vs 140 vs 140? who knows. But right now rooks seem to have a lead at all time frames and most primetime slots are RJO numbers now it seems lol........


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indeed, something needs to be done...i dont want the "current" rooks punished...i want the guys that think "oh i cant beat them, so ill join them" to be stopped.........
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2004, 11:34:01 PM »
I would say the 'lock' be based on only the online roster at that minute.  When the 25% (or whatever) lead disappears on the roster, so does the restriction.  

It only addresses the "Im frustrated now, so Im switching" and the "Im switching over here so I can feel like im kickin arse" factor.  Not too complex, but it would help with the advantage at the time growing worse.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2004, 11:35:31 PM »
Sounds like an excellent idea to me. There is a problem that needs addressing and this sounds both logical and reasonable.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2004, 11:55:28 PM »
How would you addess squads wanting to stay together?


Another thing to think about would be one side logging off.

E.g., it was 200, 175, 150 but now it is 175, 150, 75.
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2004, 12:22:21 AM »
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How would you addess squads wanting to stay together?
 


Squads wishing to stay together would do just that, stay together in the country they were on at the time. What`s difficult in unerstanding that?
  The other night we were outnumbered two to one or more. We got down to the last 5 or 6 bases and it was impossible to up at any of them , they were all being vulched. Most of course just logged off. the next morning at 4:30 AM I thought , no prob now, some sanity will rein and I can drink my cup of Joe and have some fun.  Not so.  Outnumbered still two to one, even with the with numbers very low and of course , even at this hour, it was the dweeb race to see who could pork HQ dar over and over and over again.
  I`ve sort of publicly stayed out of numbers whines, but you can ask me squaddies how I liked it when it was the other way around. I didn`t. I t makes for a boring lopsided affair that I don`t know how anyone could enjoy.
  One other suggestion I would make is since everything has been hardened against porking to the point of laughable, then why not eliminate the HQ dar porking.
  When  it gets to the point to where you log on to find that dar is porked, numbers are ridiculously against your country and there is not  even a slim chance of enjoying some time in the game, then IMHO it`s time for some changes.
  I just hope the purist "furball only" crowd is satisfied.  This is what your whines has done to the game.
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« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2004, 12:23:31 AM »
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How would you addess squads wanting to stay together?

With what I suggested everthing is the same, except once a country reaches a set advantage of online pilots, noone can switch to that country until the pilots online advantage disapates.
A squad would only run into a problem when it wants to switch to the country that already has too many pilots (and umm, thats kind of the idea).  


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Another thing to think about would be one side logging off.
E.g., it was 200, 175, 150 but now it is 175, 150, 75.
In that case, its still a lopsided situation, the logging is just a symptom.

Also remember the numbers fluxiate throughout the 24 hour day.  The player who couldnt switch to country 'X' during USA prime time, could probably switch during the other 14-18 hours of the day if they wanted to.  Its just a disinsentive for dogpiling, thats all.

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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2004, 01:17:20 AM »
i dont see anything wrong with this:aok
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« Reply #10 on: August 04, 2004, 01:22:42 AM »
Here's a radical idea.  Every week HT chooses what country a squad flies for.  These would be random.  One week your fighting a squad, the next week your working with them.  Every week the squad flies for a different country and you can't change it.  I know it will never happen it's just an idea.
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« Reply #11 on: August 04, 2004, 01:38:48 AM »
Me, I would like to see unlimited (that is no time limit) switching allowed as long as you are going to the team with the least numbers.  Still can't command CV or start a mission for 12 more hours, but you could jump around to help out.

...add to that a 25 perk bonus for moving to the smallest team (once per X number of hours) and I think we would have a workable system*.  The carrot and not the stick sort of thing.




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« Reply #12 on: August 04, 2004, 01:41:29 AM »
Or simply have it were you have to pay perks to move at all.  The price depends on the numbers.
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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2004, 01:44:08 AM »
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Here's a radical idea.  Every week HT chooses what country a squad flies for.  


 In that case ,myself and many more would cancel accounts and go watch reruns of Homer Simpson or Debbie Does Dallas. Not an optiion for most.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2004, 02:12:56 AM »
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Here's a radical idea.  Every week HT chooses what country a squad flies for.  These would be random.  One week your fighting a squad, the next week your working with them.  Every week the squad flies for a different country and you can't change it.  I know it will never happen it's just an idea.


That would truly suck. I am about the biggest, hardcore fan of AH there is. If this kind of idea were implimented I'd drop AH like a bad habit.

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