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Offline mechanic

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HTC: The answer to our ditching problems!
« on: August 07, 2004, 02:21:52 PM »
Hitech and chums,

here is a very simple solution to the ditching rule.

As long as you land in friendly territory (IE: closer to a green base than a red base) then you should be able to leave (like when you eject on the floor) your aircraft and walk home. (if in enemy territory then you would surely be picked up by *non existent* ground troops)
  On many occasions i have ejected after ditching and walked around, sometimes spying on enemy bases and sometimes trying to walk home.  i believe you should be able to walk to your airbase and succesfully complete the flight. Also it would be great if you could eject from your plane, and join one of your friendlies in his GV without having to end flight. imagine how much more realistc it would be.
If the player that gives you a lift is killed, though, then you should also be killed however, unlike the gunner/observer rule.
  But if when you actually come to the .ef command your little man is standing on the runway or in a hanger etc (therefore no need to change the ditch/land programing) then he has crashed his plane but made it home. ie: showing his kills in the text buffer.
 
Essentially what i mean is:

you can park your plane anywhere on the airfield, but its where you pilot walks to that counts for the landing.


personally i am not too bothered that a change be made, but as it seems to bug some, and i must admit, me, when i land 2 feet from my runway and get a ditch, then it may be worth trying the   'get out and walk home' rule?

what do ya think?

what do all you players think also?

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« Last Edit: August 07, 2004, 02:24:08 PM by mechanic »
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2004, 02:24:59 PM »
So, like, if Lindbergh had ditched short of the coast the swam ashore and walked to Paris he would have still been credited with the first transatlantic crossing?
« Last Edit: August 07, 2004, 02:36:26 PM by Arlo »

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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2004, 02:28:33 PM »
I have no problem the way it is now, but I do agree that often sliding 2 feet off the runway with a bunch of kills is very annoying. A change to that would be nice, but the rest seems alittle elaborate. Maybe in future AH2 after all the bugs and  some new developments have been worked out.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2004, 02:49:34 PM »
HAHAH :) arlo, very true, but i was mearly saying this as a small input for those who do have strong feelings for the ditch/landing rule.


as a spit mkV dweeb myself, i rarely even make it home, let alone worry about landing! :p

as far as i am concerned, its fine how it is.

just an idea, that became over elaborate, like you say BlueJ
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2004, 02:50:46 PM »
but you still lost the plane in your scenario.

no punishment in perks or score for losing a plane?

i know it gets gray when on an airfield, but possibly 10 miles away??

personally on an airfield if you wrecked the plane enough where you can't manuever on to the runway it is a plane lost (major repairs needed)

if it's just gas, well thats a touchy subject. how do you code the game to know that the reason for being 5 feet of the runway is because of gas???

i dont think it is possible, therefore leave the "ditched" thing the way it is. though frustrating sometimes, it is the most accurate way it can be done IMHO
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2004, 02:54:53 PM »
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but you still lost the plane in your scenario.

no punishment in perks or score for losing a plane?

i know it gets gray when on an airfield, but possibly 10 miles away??

personally on an airfield if you wrecked the plane enough where you can't manuever on to the runway it is a plane lost (major repairs needed)

if it's just gas, well thats a touchy subject. how do you code the game to know that the reason for being 5 feet of the runway is because of gas???

i dont think it is possible, therefore leave the "ditched" thing the way it is. though frustrating sometimes, it is the most accurate way it can be done IMHO


agreed.


was just an idea that hit me whilst sitting here brooding that you guys can all play and my new PC is still not ready! :mad:

PS: you stole the HTC avatar 73??  getting risky eh?
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2004, 02:57:47 PM »
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PS: you stole the HTC avatar 73??  getting risky eh?
stole?

i took the original AH classic splash screen image re-colored it to my tastes and shrunk it.

i even made a new splash screen for AHII here:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125948

i love the "old" logo, and am currently in the market for a new avatard.. this is my interum one every time

call me a fanboy if you want LOL i just like the look of it.

if HTC people think it is misleading to clients of the BBS, so be it, i will remove it. i have no allusions to being part of the "staff" and hope by the different color people know i a not one of them.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2004, 03:00:17 PM by JB73 »
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2004, 02:58:54 PM »
I think, and it's just my opinion.......

Land on the designated area (pavement..IE runway on a filed) or accept the ditch.

If you want to land on grass and have it accepted as a landing, come on over to the CT. Many of the scenarios there have grass fields.

I agree with Arlo. If you haver to walk back to the field without your aircraft, you have ditched.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2004, 03:01:02 PM »
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stole?

i took the original AH classic splash screen image re-colored it to my tastes and shrunk it.

i even made a new splash screen for AHII here:

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=125948

i love the "old" logo, and am currently in the market for a new avatard.. this is my interum one every time

call me a fanboy if you want LOL i just like the look of it.

if HTC people think it is misleading to clients of the BBS, so be it, i will remove it. i have no allusions to being part of the "staff" and hope by the different color people know i a not one of them.


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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2004, 03:06:12 PM »
Besides ... you get full credit for kills when you ditch. You get 1.5 credit if you land. So all that landing kills gains you is "exaggerating your successes" and some buffer brag text. :D

(p.s. I land them any chance I get)

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2004, 03:13:14 PM »
buffer brag text is my favorite bit of the game besides actualy flying :lol
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2004, 03:15:20 PM »
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buffer brag text is my favorite bit of the game besides actualy flying :lol

Then landing on runways is likely a good idea..:D
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2004, 03:31:38 PM »
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Then landing on runways is likely a good idea..:D


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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2004, 04:25:52 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2004, 04:35:23 PM »
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Originally posted by RTR
I think, and it's just my opinion.......

Land on the designated area (pavement..IE runway on a filed) or accept the ditch.

If you want to land on grass and have it accepted as a landing, come on over to the CT. Many of the scenarios there have grass fields.

I agree with Arlo. If you haver to walk back to the field without your aircraft, you have ditched.

RTR


I agree...walking sucks.

But, like I suggested to HT in another thread...


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Originally posted by hitech
How about I change the ditched message to you have landed. And change the landed message to you have landed on a runway.

HiTech
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HT,
Just a suggestion...

...leave the messages as they are now, but count a "safe landing" as any landing that occurs within the boundaries of the airfield. I'm sure that, in WW2, many aircraft had to be towed back to the hangar after a rough emergency landing in the grass. But the pilot wasn't docked a kill or two because of where he landed the plane.

A landing anywhere else definitely deserves to be called a "ditch."