Author Topic: This week in the Combat Theater! (Read 576 times)

Arlo · « **on:** August 07, 2004, 07:04:58 PM »

http://www.jollyrogers.info/Combat_Theater.html

The "Slot" (Solomons) 1943

Planeset

Allied

F4F-4
F4U-1
P40E
F6F-5 (CV based)
Boston (formation disabled)
SBD-5
TBM-3
C-47
LVTs

Axis

A6M5
Ki-61
Val
Kate
Ki-67 (Formation disabled)
M series vehicles

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Fuel burn 1.5
Ack lethality .7

ra · « **Reply #1 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:10:52 PM »

The Japs need a Ki-44 for these mid-war scenarios. They will get raped by the US iron with this planeset.

Arlo · « **Reply #2 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:14:57 PM »

F6F may be a bit much but the Jap anese set can handle the rest. I've been quite impressed with the A6M5 and Ki-41 abilities. Pilots were conversing after a fight just today and were quite satisified with how well the F4U and Tony matched up. The A6M5 can climb like the dickens. I find pilots who use this tactic are quite deadly bouncers.

BUT ... I'm all for the 44 getting modeled.

ra · « **Reply #3 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:21:54 PM »

Well, the F4-U makes the Japs turn, then the F4F eats the Ki-61 in the resultant low-e fights, and even gives the A6M5 a run for its money. Plus, most people prefer the US planes, so the Japs will be outnumbered 2:1 at least. It's a freekin slaughter; turning ability is of no use in this case, just delaying the inevitable. Anyway, I've been venting about the need for the Ki-44 forever, so you've just given me another opportunity.

ra

nopoop · « **Reply #4 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:33:52 PM »

ra if you hadn't noticed there's alot of zeros and ones in your sig.

Clean up your box, defrag and dump unnecessary files and it usually takes care of it.

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Arlo · « **Reply #5 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:36:11 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
Well, the F4-U makes the Japs turn, then the F4F eats the Ki-61 in the resultant low-e fights, and even gives the A6M5 a run for its money.

Again, half (or more) of the fight is preparation. Both IJ fighters can outclimb the US planeset. And both of them can actually be used to BnZ effectively with the added advantage being if they blow their e they can still turn well. This is an inherant advantage of the IJ planeset, in general.

An F4U that stays fast had better anticipate his opponent's break just right (and no, it's not impossible). If it get's slow (and that's easy to do), it's lunchmeat.

The F4F-4 has better turning characteristics than it did in AH1, but it's not all that uber versus the Tony and the A6M5 has a bit of a turning advantage. Again, the climb goes to the IJ.

The P40E is probably more of a threat to the IJ planes than the F4F. But, of course, it depends on pilot ability and tendencies.

The F6F-5 is a bit out of place here. It's nearly as fast as the F4U and turns better, takes a licking and has a punch. But it still isn't going to give the average pilot that much of an advantage in a 1v1 situation with either of the IJ fighters.

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Originally posted by ra

Plus, most people prefer the US planes, so the Japs will be outnumbered 2:1 at least. It's a freekin slaughter; turning ability is of no use in this case, just delaying the inevitable. Anyway, I've been venting about the need for the Ki-44 forever, so you've just given me another opportunity.

Player preference is something that cannot be adjusted in a setup. If players just wanna fly blue or P40s or whatever, they will - be it the CT or any arena. BUT, you may want to consider hopping on in and seeing the number of players willing to switch sides for parity sake amongst the CT regulars before you convince yourself that the IJ will be outnumbered 2v1 consistantly in any CT setup.

We eagerly anticipate the addition of the Frank for late war setups. I'm sure there will be some campaigning for the Oscar as well. I'm with you there.

ra · « **Reply #6 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:40:30 PM »

I've flown in the CT several times as Jap, I'm speaking from experience.

(the Ki-44 is the Tojo)

ra

ra · « **Reply #7 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:42:42 PM »

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Originally posted by nopoop
ra if you hadn't noticed there's alot of zeros and ones in your sig.

Clean up your box, defrag and dump unnecessary files and it usually takes care of it.

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You see more than zeros and ones don't you? CONFESS!!

Arlo · « **Reply #8 on:** August 07, 2004, 07:50:55 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
I've flown in the CT several times as Jap, I'm speaking from experience.

(the Ki-44 is the Tojo)

ra

I never said you've never flown there and you never experienced it. I invited you to try it this week to see if you experience something different. I've not seen it the way you describe but on rare occasion for the last several Pacific setups. It'll waver back and forth but when you've got a half dozen players (and then some, at times) that are willing to switch sides (even at the expense of not flying their preferred ride), then the fight is more fun for the community in general. And this is what happens on a regular basis in the Ct when the regulars are flying. Give it a go for more than 20 minutes and see if you discover a pleasant change.

Oops .. .yup .. the 43 is the Oscar. It wouldn't break you heart to see that one added, though ... would it?

Mak333 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 08, 2004, 12:42:05 AM »

I think its pretty evenly matched. The zero's and zekes are the one's that I acutally watch out for. If flown right, the zero's could possibly be the most deadly in the campaign.

The zeke is the plane I learned to fly with in AH and also in AH2, and am an expert in it now.

The trick is bait. The sucker turn so fast all you gotta do is get your opponent to turn with you and you have him beat. Remember that energy (even tho its not an E fighter) is still the key to be able to out maneuver your opponent. Just because it turns nicely doesnt mean you can rev your engine up fullpower and jerk your stick expecting to beat him. You really have to monitor your speed and E closely when engaging in turn fights if you expect to win. Even with odds against you 1 vs 4 you can still win by using ACM and managing your energy properly before and while you are in the next turn.

Arlo · « **Reply #10 on:** August 08, 2004, 01:12:44 AM »

Word has it there may be some new IJ squads forming (crosses fingers).

Here's some screens taken between 8pm and midnight. Numbers were slightly low but stayed even. There were some knock-down drag-out fights attacking and defending bases with everyone pretty much at 10k or less (4k or less most of us).

Squire · « **Reply #11 on:** August 08, 2004, 10:39:30 AM »

The Ki-61 Tony is a fine fighter, although slower than the F4U-1 it is more manueverable than all the US types, has very good armament, good speed, and is good in a high speed dive. It will eat P-40s and F4Fs for breakfast, its easily an even match for the F6F, and can fight the F4U-1 if flown smartly. Its very dangerous when paired with A6M5s as well, which deal with any US type that gets slow trying to manuever with it, which they often do.

...as for the Ki-44-IIb's of 1943, it is in fact only 8 mph faster than a Ki-61 at best alt (376 to 368), and is worse armed (4 x 12.7mm). It does climb better, but doesn't turn as well. Its not a Ki-84 or an N1K. It would be an interesting addition to the IJ set, but it does not outclass the Ki-61 as a fighter in 1943. Btw, IJAAF pilots generally complained about its lack of manueverbility. Later in the war it was up gunned and up engined (Ki-44-III).

Flit · « **Reply #12 on:** August 08, 2004, 12:07:17 PM »

For those of you wishing for the KI 84,check out the announcement forum:D

Mak333 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 08, 2004, 12:32:19 PM »

Would like to see more people in the CT guys. Even if ya never play it. When MA seems boring or frustrating, come on over! Nice fights - small but very fun!

simshell · « **Reply #14 on:** August 08, 2004, 02:31:13 PM »

what are the downtimes for strats and how much ords it take to disable them

like i said i like having fun in dive bombers in the CT or CV level bombers:)