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Offline Vudak

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« on: August 12, 2004, 06:39:33 PM »
I've noticed that some pilot wounds kill you sooner then others.  I've been able to make sector length, slow cruise-speed retreats with some, while only living a much shorter time with others.  The problem is, it's difficult to tell what you have on your hands from the outset.  Then again, this might not be true at all, and i might just be losing it.

Assuming it is true, I was wondering what people would think of a "pilot health indicator" in the E6B menu?  This could be as simple as a % rating, or as complex as an actual outline of a pilot with the wounds filled in red.

Forgive me if this idea has already been brought up before.
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2004, 06:44:17 PM »
Naw too gamey. While I like ammo indicators, dar, etc... it's kind of 'fun' sometimes to not know how bad you're hit and try to get back to base before passing out/dying.

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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2004, 07:09:07 PM »
I agree with DipStick.

 Sometimes, realitic implementation of a certain aspect advocates unrealistic results as a whole.

 For instance, a pilot would know where he's hurt and how bad it is the moment he's been hit in real life. However, he'd also be filled with fear and pain, and try to return home alive as soon as possible.

 Funny as it seems, in a game, if we were to know where we're hurt and how badly, it may as well turn out that people would start to think "hmm.. I only got a flesh wound.. I think I can fight some more..", or "hmm.. I'd say this wound would give me about 10 more minutes flight time. I'll shoot down this guy ahead of me, and then rtb."

 Ironically, the way it is implemented now, successfully replaces the "pain" and "fear of death" factor by a factor of uncertainty, which ussually compells us to return home.

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2004, 07:10:50 PM »
well heres what i think.

The percentage would be too much. but i think the indicator of where you are hit would be good. If its realism we are striving for, think of it froma pilots point of view. If im a real pilot in WWII, and i get hit, i can simply cast a glance and see where im hit. And based on that, I would judge if i could fight on for a little longer or run home immediately.

therefore, i think an indicator would be good.. but not a percentage bar.

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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2004, 07:15:53 PM »
You can determine the severity of the wound by the amount of time between passing out.  If you pass out, wake up and then pass out a few moments later, then you know you've got a serious wound and probably won't make it back.  If on the other hand, you pass out, wake up and don't pass out for a few minutes then your wound is less serious.



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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2004, 09:19:18 PM »
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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
You can determine the severity of the wound by the amount of time between passing out.  If you pass out, wake up and then pass out a few moments later, then you know you've got a serious wound and probably won't make it back.  If on the other hand, you pass out, wake up and don't pass out for a few minutes then your wound is less serious.



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agree

but as i have said before...these things all depend on your definition of realism. do planes just magically appear on a runway and take off by themselves with no help from the pilot except throttle control? does the fact that you will never run out of gas in a gv ever come up? or a pt boat? or maybe that you can just leave your plane on the runway or take off with two planes seemingly inside one another. or look into the sun as long as you wish and never suffer eye damage. these are just some of many. a pilot wound indicator would be useless, just as limited fuel in a gv. these guys are pilots, not doctors. they have no clue how bad they are hurt besides the pain they feel. we cant feel that pain so there's no way to know. its a nice idea....but no.

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2004, 01:47:59 AM »
Would it not be an indicator enough if there were something like 3 different graphics for the blood sprayed around the cocpit.... just a few drops on the windshield... the mediocre (what we have now) ... and then lots of blood covering the gauges with some intestines hanging from levers...  yuch ;)  Maybe too much.. but get the idea?


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Offline Vudak

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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2004, 01:50:59 AM »
That's a good idea BlauK
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2004, 03:34:25 AM »
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Would it not be an indicator enough if there were something like 3 different graphics for the blood sprayed around the cocpit.... just a few drops on the windshield... the mediocre (what we have now) ... and then lots of blood covering the gauges with some intestines hanging from levers...  yuch ;)  Maybe too much.. but get the idea?



I would like to see arterial blood spray periodically to indicate the severity of the wounds in addition to the blackouts.  Everytime you pass out, a jet of blood would squirt out.  The force of the blood spray would depend on the severity of the wounds.

Another thing I would like to see but I don't think we'll ever see it is fire so you'd burn to death.


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Offline simshell

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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2004, 03:40:50 AM »
thats a sick idea     
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2004, 03:27:29 PM »
If your thinking along the lines of a inflight nurse then I'm game for that!!:aok  If you want to dumb this thing down even more than I say no. When I see blood in the cockpit i know I don't have much time left. How much makes it suspensfull and makes the game better.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2004, 03:42:35 PM »
Well, knowing how bad you are hit is not going to bring the base any closer, so I don't see the benefit.  You could however look at the hole on the glass.  If its a 303 you probably OK.  If its from a 20mm, you probably in troble.  In addition, the times between blackouts are a bery good indicator.
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