Author Topic: History Channel Sniper Show (Read 423 times)

XtrmeJ · « **on:** August 14, 2004, 05:02:39 AM »

Anyone else see it? Thought it was quite interesting. Seems like an extremely tough course to pass (Britain). Watching the American snipers now. I've thought of this before, but if I were to join a ground force instead of my first choice the Air Force, I'd train to be a sniper.

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #1 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:03:53 AM »

You've never heard of Mr Black have you?

XtrmeJ · « **Reply #2 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:04:47 AM »

Err I see what you're getting at.

ramzey · « **Reply #3 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:05:18 AM »

lol, show repated couple times in last 2 -3 months
again show how americans invented wheeel;)

XtrmeJ · « **Reply #4 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:06:08 AM »

Don't watch TV much, guess I'm out of the loop.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:15:59 AM »

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Originally posted by ramzey
lol, show repated couple times in last 2 -3 months
again show how americans invented wheeel;)

Huh that's strange, I watched the show and I remember it showing that the American military learned from other nation's military units and took about three or four starts to become a permanent presence in the US military.

It showed that the term sniping came from English bird hunting in India. It showed that in WW1, Germans, French, and English had units before the US got there, and the US units learned from the Allied forces.

Never did I see that the show gave credit to the US Military for anything other than starting it in the US Military.

Of course, maybe I get a different history channel than you do.

Staga · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:36:14 AM »

No idea who invented snipin' but I know who excelled in it with over 500 scalps under his belt (+ couple hundred with SMG).

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp

ramzey · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:44:09 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Huh that's strange, I watched the show and I remember it showing that the American military learned from other nation's military units and took about three or four starts to become a permanent presence in the US military.

It showed that the term sniping came from English bird hunting in India. It showed that in WW1, Germans, French, and English had units before the US got there, and the US units learned from the Allied forces.

Never did I see that the show gave credit to the US Military for anything other than starting it in the US Military.

Of course, maybe I get a different history channel than you do.

sorry i went a bit drunk tonight

you right, authors say about canadian and british sharpshooters who collect expirience about sniper job. But then focus on US troops in Nam. Thats not hard to understand, cuz we are in US and thats US TV show.
Movies like "sniper" with tom berrenger (or whatever hes name spell) build false picture "American is allways best ". Wich is not allways true. Level of propaganda on History channel somtimes scare me

ramzey · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2004, 05:46:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga
No idea who invented snipin' but I know who excelled in it with over 500 scalps under his belt (+ couple hundred with SMG).

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp

David fighting with Goliat?

i did read about this guy long time ago, hes story its amazing

anonymous · « **Reply #9 on:** August 14, 2004, 09:16:39 AM »

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Originally posted by ramzey
sorry i went a bit drunk tonight

you right, authors say about canadian and british sharpshooters who collect expirience about sniper job. But then focus on US troops in Nam. Thats not hard to understand, cuz we are in US and thats US TV show.
Movies like "sniper" with tom berrenger (or whatever hes name spell) build false picture "American is allways best ". Wich is not allways true. Level of propaganda on History channel somtimes scare me

maybe they focused on us sniper in vn because at time they getting more combat time than anyone else. and us probably all sniper think berenger movie is stupid. saying that movie is about snipers is like saying rambo 2 is about special operations. come to think of it almost every movie on any military specialty is amazingly stupid if youre looking for realistic portrayal. in my experience no organized military produces anything but excelent trained sniper. trying to say one group better than other is like saying one olympic sprinter is slow because he three hundreths of second slower than other sprinter. even fifth or sixth place out of seven theyre still in top tenth of a percent in the world in what they do. true about us not liking sniper for a long time. lot of "traditional" which is another word for "dangerously inflexible" military officer in us military fight against use of sniper for a long time. same with special operations. same with airplanes when they new also i think.

anonymous · « **Reply #10 on:** August 14, 2004, 09:20:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Staga
No idea who invented snipin' but I know who excelled in it with over 500 scalps under his belt (+ couple hundred with SMG).

http://www.mosinnagant.net/finland/simohayha.asp

anyone know id of russian sniper who wounded this guy? think about this he probably saved lives of another thousand russian soldiers. talk about a force multiplier.

Staga · « **Reply #11 on:** August 14, 2004, 12:34:15 PM »

Dunno, he died so guess he wasn't able to write his memoirs "How I saved the lifes of my comrades".

There was also another famous Finnish Sniper, Sulo Kolkka, who was credited with something like 400 kills. He also had a duel with a russian sniper and neither could that Russian wrote his memoirs.

B17Skull12 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 14, 2004, 01:02:48 PM »

Did they interview Mr. Black? we all know SnIpErZ rUlE:rofl

anonymous · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2004, 04:05:45 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Dunno, he died so guess he wasn't able to write his memoirs "How I saved the lifes of my comrades".

There was also another famous Finnish Sniper, Sulo Kolkka, who was credited with something like 400 kills. He also had a duel with a russian sniper and neither could that Russian wrote his memoirs.

you have a good internet link for story of Sulo Kolkka?

anonymous · « **Reply #14 on:** August 14, 2004, 04:08:34 PM »

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Originally posted by Staga
Dunno, he died so guess he wasn't able to write his memoirs "How I saved the lifes of my comrades".

There was also another famous Finnish Sniper, Sulo Kolkka, who was credited with something like 400 kills. He also had a duel with a russian sniper and neither could that Russian wrote his memoirs.

i get the feeling you think im glad the russian hit your guy. not so im just engaging in a little "what if". story of finnland against russia id say im for the finnland. did the russian sniper that hit your guy actually die?