Author Topic: I cnat defend HQ with 163s..becuase too many peopl?arg (Read 1377 times)

Hyrax81st · « **Reply #30 on:** August 17, 2004, 03:10:56 AM »

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Originally posted by MOIL
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GREAT link... enjoyed reading that one. Thanks.

MOIL · « **Reply #31 on:** August 17, 2004, 03:22:17 AM »

Your quite welcome:aok

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Overlag · « **Reply #32 on:** August 17, 2004, 08:40:02 AM »

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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
The 163 shouldn't EVER be limited.

why?

it was in real life

Overlag · « **Reply #33 on:** August 17, 2004, 08:52:29 AM »

to stop NOE attacks on HQ there should be a ring (or 2) of ack (37mm and 88?) about 1 mile out from it, so you get almost murderd by 37mm, if you are below 6k, and if your above that alt, the 88s should be firing. I find HQ runs a tad boring, no one ups normal fighters hardly these days, its all 163 or nothing. Then theres very little auto defence, as if you could fly over germany during the day in 1944 without having flak follow you....

but then i also think flak should be alittle more random. IE if theres 10 buffs ib, it should be really thick and painful, if theres one it should be as it is now almost useless.

Kev367th · « **Reply #34 on:** August 17, 2004, 09:55:28 AM »

The problem with NOE is the lack of radar cover around some HQs.
Some maps there are glaring holes so that you don't know an HQ is on the way till HQ itself is flashing.
Using those yellow dot things you can effectively close the hole giving perhaps a 15-20 mile warning, more than enuf time to up and intercept.
Place one field around 5 miles off HQ as an HQ defence force.
With these conditions UNLESS its a huge NOE raid theres no reason but your own fault if you lose dar.

As I said in previous post though, this doesn't affect offmap fliers who use that feature to effectively game the game to get to HQ. Solutions as stated - Off map flying = BOOM, your dead.
I have gone off the idea off being able to see a dot if offmap, why, this would only lead to NOE offmappers.

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #35 on:** August 17, 2004, 12:12:41 PM »

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Originally posted by TBolt A-10
The 163 shouldn't EVER be limited.
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Originally posted by Overlag
why?

it was in real life

The 163 is an important HQ defender now that the other fast favorites (G10's (I've read this Bf was restricted at some point), P51's, etc.) are disabled. Therefore, the 163 should always be available for those last-ditch defensive attempts. And, apparently HT agrees.

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Originally posted by hitech
As to the 163 and perk planes the 163 will definetly be excluded and im favoring the idea of all perks to be excluded from the eny system.

HiTech

Agreed...let the perkies always be available. The Lala should be perked. ALL uber planes, like the La-7, should've been perked a long time ago. If you wanna fly it, spend the money.

Overlag · « **Reply #36 on:** August 17, 2004, 12:36:45 PM »

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Originally posted by TBolt A-10

Agreed...let the perkies always be available. The Lala should be perked. ALL uber planes, like the La-7, should've been perked a long time ago. If you wanna fly it, spend the money.

totaly...... then the sides business means that the big side pays more........

Kev367th · « **Reply #37 on:** August 17, 2004, 12:44:53 PM »

Overlag and TBolt you'll be joining me in HTC hell for even the slightest, merest hint of perking Lala and Ponies.

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #38 on:** August 17, 2004, 01:04:27 PM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Overlag and TBolt you'll be joining me in HTC hell for even the slightest, merest hint of perking Lala and Ponies.

I'm in Hell everytime an Uber-7 ruins a fun fight between non-Uber planes. And, the Uber-7 is usually flown by a guy that NO ONE has ever heard of.

Overlag · « **Reply #39 on:** August 17, 2004, 01:20:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Kev367th
Overlag and TBolt you'll be joining me in HTC hell for even the slightest, merest hint of perking Lala and Ponies.

i think its just common sence... people say perks dont work, but you dont see many f4u1c's/ta152s flying around do you?

perks "dont work" because not enough planes are perked. meaning that no one looses the perks they gain, unless they have a nutty 30minutes crashing 262s.

i keep saying it (and maybe to some, whining about it) but i going to say it again:

PERK EVERYTHING from around 35-30 eny...and im talking real perking too... 50 perks for a la7/p51 etc, 100 perks for a 163, 250 for 262 etc etc. This way, the side with massive numbers has to PAY more for there planes. They also have less chance to EARN perks since you dont get that much when your side has numbers. Over a few months i recon this will have more "results" on evening the sides than anything else. and im not sure there will be too much whining either, since people can still FLY there planes if they want.. they just need to earn the right.....

but i doubt we will see that ever happen.

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #40 on:** August 17, 2004, 01:32:50 PM »

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Originally posted by Overlag
i think its just common sence... people say perks dont work, but you dont see many f4u1c's/ta152s flying around do you?

perks "dont work" because not enough planes are perked. meaning that no one looses the perks they gain, unless they have a nutty 30minutes crashing 262s.

i keep saying it (and maybe to some, whining about it) but i going to say it again:

PERK EVERYTHING from around 35-30 eny...and im talking real perking too... 50 perks for a la7/p51 etc, 100 perks for a 163, 250 for 262 etc etc. This way, the side with massive numbers has to PAY more for there planes. They also have less chance to EARN perks since you dont get that much when your side has numbers. Over a few months i recon this will have more "results" on evening the sides than anything else. and im not sure there will be too much whining either, since people can still FLY there planes if they want.. they just need to earn the right.....

but i doubt we will see that ever happen.

I agree with you. I really do.

I always wanted HTC to take it a little further by requiring every pilot to learn older models before advancing to the late-war rides. And, of course, those late-war models should cost money/perks.

La-5 > La-7
Bf 109E > Bf 109F > BF 109G2, etc...
P 51B > P 51D
Fw 190A5 > Fw 190 A8 > Fw 190F8 > Fw 190D9 > Ta 152
Spit V > Spit IX > Spit XIV

etc., etc., etc...

No more 2-week trial n00bs running down everything within 25 miles with an La-7/Spit 9/whatever. And, we shouldn't have to wait for TOD - if that ever comes - to see this happen.

Mak333 · « **Reply #41 on:** August 17, 2004, 01:58:22 PM »

I gots an idea..

Since we have so many whiners, complaining, bull**** calling, and "wtf's"... why doesnt HTC make the game historical. Why create an arcade atmosphere (Main Arena) for us riff-raff when in turn you are trying to limit the whines and complaints and to even things up.

I got big bets says people would much rather have more historical accuracy to the plane sets like in the combat theater.

kj714 · « **Reply #42 on:** August 17, 2004, 01:58:59 PM »

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Originally posted by JB35
Heres 1 for incoming Buff's to HQ , when Trinity map came out a few weeks ago , their was a single Buff group headed to Rook HQ , the ME163 was not available and neither was the ME262 , so we knew that we had to up something to counter the incoming Buff , I upped the 109G10 as did other squaddies of mine .
Only to get to the Buff group and find that they were at an ungodly 35K alt , I managed to get close enough to get a shot at him before he tore me a new one and I spirald to my death , as for the other squaddies , they couldnt even get close due to their flying the 190 series planes , at 30 K they climb at what 5 inches a min.
and at 30 to 35K alt the G10 is so unstable it isnt funny

And for the NOE attackers hitting HQ , by the time you see HQ flashing the fastes thing to up and get their in a hurry is the ME163 and it gives you some time to defend before the Bombs release , but up a prop plane and fly to HQ and well you might as well up a Goonie Bird and start heading to HQ with supplies.

Get rid of HQ all together and make Dar in Zones , or again just kill dar at airfeilds while you advance .

So, did they hit HQ from 35k?

TBolt A-10 · « **Reply #43 on:** August 17, 2004, 05:51:10 PM »

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Originally posted by Mak333
I got big bets says people would much rather have more historical accuracy to the plane sets like in the combat theater.

If that were true, there would be more people in the CT.

Morpheus · « **Reply #44 on:** August 17, 2004, 06:50:40 PM »

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Originally posted by Stone
The 163 is special, it should allways be available IMO.

If a country has numbers, they are most welcome to up 50 163, fly 3 sectors to the outnumbered country and crash without fuel in the ground

It is only a HQ defender ! Put ENY to high and remove the perks.

And while your at it, remove the HQ killing, cos I hate flying blind

lol wtf:lol