Author Topic: If you HATE the new system..post here (Read 2343 times)

Ohio330 · « **on:** August 16, 2004, 11:03:32 AM »

Since there is a post in favor of the new system, there aught to be one against it. I do not like the new system, and will not
go into it, as it will only be considered a "whine" anyways.
What really should be done is for HT to do an actual pole.
I'm up for a democratic-style voting system here. If more
people are in favor of the system, I'll respect that and keep my mouth shut.

Edbert · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:07:12 AM »

Is the ENY-thing worse than the horde-thing for you? Not a flame, just curious, to me neither one indicates soemthing is broken.

Ohio330 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:10:40 AM »

I would go into the reasons for it, but it seems, at this point, that
anything that upsets someone about the recent patch, it just
gets flamed anyways. Im posting my dislike in general and hope HT does a democratic-style voting to either keep or remove
the recent patch.

JB42 · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:12:13 AM »

I have to concerns aboutthe new system:

1) The inability to defend HQ with Me163s

2) The ability for teh other countries to up Temps and @62s and we have no way of getting rid of them.

Take a way La7s and P51ds, that just makes my 190A5 that much more powerful, but don't restrict the perk planes.

Howitzer · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:18:41 AM »

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Originally posted by JB42
I have to concerns aboutthe new system:

1) The inability to defend HQ with Me163s

2) The ability for teh other countries to up Temps and @62s and we have no way of getting rid of them.

Take a way La7s and P51ds, that just makes my 190A5 that much more powerful, but don't restrict the perk planes.

I agree with you here 42, I think that the perk planes should always be enabled. We are already penalized a higher perk value for them if we outnumber another country, so the inability to fly them seems to just undermine the other balancing technique. If not all the perk planes, then at least the 163s should be enabled because you can only fly them from one base anyway.

Furious · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:34:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Ohio330
I would go into the reasons for it, but it seems, at this point, that
anything that upsets someone about the recent patch, it just
gets flamed anyways. Im posting my dislike in general and hope HT does a democratic-style voting to either keep or remove
the recent patch.

Two things.

First, if you posted in a reasonable manner what you disliked about the current solution, I do not think you would be flamed. Stomping your feet and throwing a bbs tantrum, however, would.

Second, AH is not run as a democracy. How could that work? Here is the problem; team A vastly outnumbers team B & C. Let's vote on a solution that must have repercussons for A in order to make the game more enjoyable for those on team B & C. Since A has the most votes, could they do this? Could they vote for what is best for the arena in general and against what is better for them as a group?

Ohio330 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2004, 11:53:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Furious
Two things.

First, if you posted in a reasonable manner what you disliked about the current solution, I do not think you would be flamed. Stomping your feet and throwing a bbs tantrum, however, would.

Second, AH is not run as a democracy. How could that work? Here is the problem; team A vastly outnumbers team B & C. Let's vote on a solution that must have repercussons for A in order to make the game more enjoyable for those on team B & C. Since A has the most votes, could they do this? Could they vote for what is best for the arena in general and against what is better for them as a group?

I see your point regarding the vote thing,and I see that would'nt work either. Secondly, I have my opinions, and don't feel the need to justify them in an open forum. If HTC wants to know a detailed reason for my opinion, I will e-mail them directly.
Everyone has their own opinions, and many ideas have been hashed out, but we still have not agreed to what would work.
Giving my opinion is not going to change what other gamers have
decided already. Its up to HT to hear how ppl feel whether this new patch is doing more harm than good, or the other way around.
Its really sad, though, I don't think there is going to ever be
a solution that makes most of us happy.

schizer · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2004, 12:00:31 PM »

Furious · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2004, 12:11:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Ohio330
...Its up to HT to hear how ppl feel whether this new patch is doing more harm than good, or the other way around...

We have had imbalance in the arena before. There must be something different this time. With all the work HTC has left to do the get TOD and additions to AH2 up, something must have made it urgent to fix this problem. Something to make the fallout over this decision worth it.

It's funny, the folks whom have held the advantage most recently are the most vocal against this change and some have threatened to leave. Maybe the other folks that had gotten tired of always getting beat down had already left.

So, maybe this patch is HT responding to how people feel. It's just not a response that favours those who do not wish to lose their advantage.

Edbert · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2004, 12:12:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Ohio330
Secondly, I have my opinions, and don't feel the need to justify them in an open forum.

I didn't ask for you to justify your opinions, I just asked if you dislike the ENY thing more than the numbers imbalance that brought it about.

Of course you don't have to answer that if you don't want to. But I figure if you want people to post here in agreement that the new ENY limiting thing is a bad thing you should at least answer that question to yourself.

Personally speaking I think there's more whinning about the ENY thing than the numbers imbalance. But I also realize this BBS is not a good indicator of the MA population at large, it is more an indicator of how many people are bored at work

Ohio330 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2004, 12:30:48 PM »

Ok, I do have an ENY problem.. hordes can be a prob as well, i know this.. I just don't think HT is fixing this problem by the way
they are addressing it now. There is really no secret to my opinions, as they reflect a culmination of what has aready been voiced PRIOR to their institution of this patch (which i did voice
during Hightech's original post)
I'm also at a loss as to make things better. And yes, I AM a rook
All I'm basically saying is the present patch isn't working. I will
voice one new opinion which I've noticed last night. Some say,
"bout time the number's were more even. " Well, that was true
of last night. Only one prob. Rooks were limited to their
plane sets as our HQ was constantly being overrun. Roughly even numbers in that case didn't seem to spell out "fairness".
The balancing attempt by HT seems a little harsh as it stands.
Oh, and one other thing. I don't really want to switch sides,
but if I do come to this decision.. I will probably be attacking
the side that I know is limited in plane sets. If this is happening
in the minds of other players already, this will lead to TWO
countries pouncing on the weaker.

roofer · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2004, 01:09:43 PM »

as of now i do not like it.

my account my ride on the outcome of this new patch

Goth · « **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2004, 01:13:11 PM »

Hate---

I think perking the aircraft are a better solution. I don't think bombers should ever be denied and certainly not the 163 for HQ defense.

schizer · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2004, 01:21:55 PM »

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Originally posted by roofer
as of now i do not like it.

my account my ride on the outcome of this new patch

If it stays the way it is, I wont keep paying

X2Lee · « **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2004, 01:22:49 PM »

ILIKEIT!

oh wait im in the ladies room.......
again ;->
How about right here on this counter top? It
could be comfortable.