Six calls, SA, Voice chans, and Profanity.

[Mayhem]

First off here’s the scenario I haven’t logged into AH for almost 2 weeks My little boy is up watching me play and I have my surround sound system running on my PC. I have just taken off fom a carrier in a f4u1a, some one I don't know has taken off as well in a f6f. I’m climbing away from my carrier playing with my tank settings and I start hearing flack burst go off. I look back and see a rook p38 diving on my six from 1.5 out. I invert and split S to evade before he can get to close. I fanaly come around to see that he took the tail off the f6f. now here’s the conditions I’m under.

1)   I have customized my Keyboard layout way back in ah 1 and have no clue where my check six call is bound to. If it is infact bound to anything at all.

2)   I normally give six calls over voice any way and since no one is on from my squad and I’m running with my 5.1 speakers on. My headset was set aside. So no way to send voice calls.

3)   By time I came back around to see where the 38 had gone the f6f was already dead flaming and on the way to deep blue so IF I had given a check six or Voice warning it would have been to Late.

4)   If I had heard the flack burst and had enough common sense to look back at where it was coming from I woulda expected the hellcat driver to do the same.

This is the Result. The f6f driver comes across voice cussing at me and teaching my 5 year old a few words I’de rather him not learn till he is at least in his teens at earlies. I try to explain to the guy there was nothing I can could have done. He basically bad mouths some more then types something about defecting to rooks.

Ok Where in the heck in the rule book does it say I have to compensate for peoples complete lack of SA that I’m required to give every one and there mother a six call (I gave your mom a six call last night any way). I don’t fly for you. I don’t fly for the knight rooks bishes az bz cz or any other country for that matter. I fly ah with my squad for my enjoyment and not yours or any one else’s. If your not in my squad and I don’t know you then I couldn't care if a rattz hind end about you. I don’t give six calls I don’t expect six calls. In fact I don’t want six calls they’re annoying. Half time I’m on their six any way and a six call just blows my shot at a kill cause I starting looking around for the person that was suppose to be on my six. I do give voice calls but I don’t expect them. They’re no substitute for SA. If you can’t take getting shot down and find it necessary to start spouting profanity over an open voice channel I can’t lock out because there’s no way to filter out your profanity and no one can touch you for it then please defect to rooks in fact defect to warbirds better yet defect to Russia so My family and I don’t have to listen to you’re foul mouth uneducated backwoods dialect. Grow up! It’s just a game and you didn’t even loose a quarter in the pac-man machine!

Now here is my question is there any way to cut of room voice and room voice alone without cutting out room text or other voice channels? And If there isn’t is there any way it can get put in a future build? Ia, sure Iam not the only person with this problem or concern. I prefer my kids to not learn biker bar lingo from a online flight sim. As it stands right now I can’t let my kids on this game just because a few people have to express there inability to look around once and awhile and pay attention to thier surroundings, with profanity.

[Simaril]

I agree completely. Your 6 is YOUR SIX. Nobody else's responsibility. If I get jumped from behind, its my own fault. Period.

Check 6 calls are gifts, not rights.

Sorry i can't answer your main Q about the room vox -- dont know.  Just wanted to vent on a peeve of mine too.

[1K0N]

A range squelch feature would be a nice addition to AH2, but I dont think HT agrees with that because he refuses to respond to the feature request....

IKON

[Mayhem]

This is an issue can you honestly let your kids play this game if you're touchy about what people say around them. text is one thing but to hear a thirty something your old man bad mouth you and cuss at you over a channel you can't block out?. How can HTC ignore it when people can't let there kids on a game like this. It's a wwII flight sim not q3 ut2004 Counter Strike or doom3. it should be rated PG not R or X. If I put out a game that had that kinda lingo its get an ma17 rating on it for the profanity alone.
 
The SA and Check six issue is sort of a beaten dead horse. but theres 4 Problems with room voice. You can't block it out to my knowledge at least not without blocking out text chat as well (not even sure you can block voice with chat). It's un-moderated/monitored its a resorce hit and it clutters up things when your trying to talk to your own squadies on a private channel. it would be really nice if you just had a check box to disable room voice. Ide get better frame rates. I can hear and talk to my squad and my kids don't needs to hear some one spout forth trash from thier mouth becuase they haven't learned SA yet and they're to inmature to deal with getting shot down in a flight sim game.

It breaks down to ...
Hay Mayhem what games do you play on your computer I play Aces High
is it any good?
  Ya but you can't let your kids play it and you needs to keep the sound off or use headphones when people are in the room
Why's that?
Becuase people cuss at you when you don't compansate for they're lack of skill and you can't block it out any other way. Sort of like "Postal 2 Share the Pain" in airplanes.
that bad?
Ya there's really no controll over it they can't use rofanity on text becuase of filters. but there is no controll when it comes to voice so they perty much say what they want.

[Zanth]

There is no call for this sort of behaviour, but it is a crazy world "out there".  Range vox might not be squelchable for some technical reason we don't know about though.  As nuts as hitech is about typed profanity I can't imagine he would not proivided option.

On the check 6 thing, I wouldn't loose sleep over it.  The previous poster was correct in the "gift" statement.  I bet that guy's tantrum sure didn't increase his 6 calls, life has a way of evening out that way

BTW the key is  the " and ' key (with ' being the operational command)

[Shane]

not that i disagree about the apparent need for a more comprehensive squelch vox system, but... the point about movie ratings, well even PG includes the occasional "dam" and "hell"

i mean sheesh there was even a disney made for disney channel movie titled, "H E double hockey sticks"

but i disgress...

one can still use headphones. one can even turn off vox completely - which is what i do.
 
but still... my first statement would probably be best, what's so hard about setting up more squelch options for vox?  not sure exactly why HT is so resistent to the idea, especially since there exists a check 6 feature.

[Rolex]

You can use the ".vsquelch callsign" command to voice squelch someone. I'm not aware of any way to squelch all local vox.

I wouldn't complain if local vox was a selectable feature. Or, if a right click on the roster had the option to add someone to my squelch list...

[Shane]

well right now the vsquelch is an "after the fact" solution...

not sure if there are still:

a) limits on # one can squelch
b) whether the system "remembers" someone's squlech list

[Mayhem]

Zanth

Funny thing about my keyboard set up. I started flying AH back in beta. at the time I was still a Game op and CM on Gamestorms AW line. I was using that old CH analog gear I recently gave away and didn't want to have to seprate speed key profiles for 3 games. so I remapped AH AW Classic and AWIII to match. that way I only needed to know one keyboard layout and one stick setup. I've made very few changes to that layout in AH. when I set up AH2 I allowed it pull my old ah1 setup. silly part AW is Gone and Iam using brand new ch USB gear. I should have just set every thing to defualts and reprogramed my ch gear to match. I probably still will and Iam gunna have to relearn the default kb  profile.

Shane
It was enough to get any movie a R rating it was beyond simple dam and hell. But to be honest I was steamed and probably overreacting a bit. I woulda just luaghed it off if my Kid didn't hear it. I was really cuaght unprepared for it. I hadn't flown at all in a few weaks and this takes place 3 minutes into my first flight. My kid hears it and asks me about it. I also have this agreement with my wife. I don't play ultra violent/gorey/bloody/scary games or games with profanity in them, like Q3 postal2 or doom3. when the kids are around, and she doesn't make me watch lifetime movies with her.

It would be nice to have more control to block stuff out and have more controll over voice comms. even squalching this guy wouldn't have helped. I had no way of predicting his behavior and by the time I coulda typed in the squalch command to squalch him out it woulda been to late. I don't want to loose voice comms I just want more controll over them. It's easier to hide text from the wife and kids then some one screaming FU in 5.1 surround sound. I Like this game and I want my kids intereted in it and in ww2 history. My Sons favorite airplane is Corsair . In any event I need to be more mindfull of this game I use to let my kids fly under my account unsupervised. that has to stop and I need to be more restrictive about letting them watch and listen to me pay as well and that is a real shocker to me.

[DREDIOCK]

I would also like to see something done with the Range vox.
The language itself doesnt bother me reguardless of content so much as trying to talk-co-ordinate with my squadmates while some locals, yak away about whatever.
Specifically I'd like a seperate volume control just for range vox.

Oh and to the WM squad specifically.
You guys have your vox all figured out perfectly.
No offence intended but
You you all be so kind as to turn your Mikes down JUST a little bit.
You guys have the best and clearest sounding vox in the game I've ever heard.
Only problem is your a bit LOUD.
And I mean near burst your eardrums loud

[rod367th]

Film every sortie. Then turn film to HTC if there is problem. I film every sortie  at end of day i remove those i don't want and rename those I do want to see later.

[Shane]

Originally posted by rod367th
Film every sortie. Then turn film to HTC if there is problem. I film every sortie  at end of day i remove those i don't want and rename those I do want to see later.

i just wish we could name the films as we save them instead of having to review them and then figure out a name.  or the ability to delete before they get saved, i.e., giving the option once alt-r is toggled the 2nd time.

ah well, not a high priority, just a little feature wish.

[Edbert]

We need a global range-vox squelch button that recalls the setting when you relog. As well as permasquelch for text that also recalls the settings when relogging.

Another cool squelch feature would be some sort of bot-tool that would automagically squelch any player's text (say for 15 minutes) anytime 20, 30, 50 (pick a number) of other players added them to their own squelch list. The number required would have to be high enough to prevent people from using it incorrectly of course, but trying to get 30 people in the MA to do ANYTHING together is sometimes a chore.

EDIT: How about making the second vox channel (what we currently have for range) tunable? We could use it for private vox if desired, or leave it on range or kill it entirely that way. It sure would come in handy for scenarios and missions as well.

[Shane]

you're forgetting ch200 is entirely voluntary now.

if you don't like what you see, detune, squlech or go play bunnyluv.

[DREDIOCK]

Oh and as for Check 6 Calls.

Couple things I've had/ and seen  happen

From the "You gotta be kidding me Dept"
Few nights ago I'm flying in a furball when I see a P51 diving on a countryman. Im just aobut to give a check6 call when he starts evading then fighting the rook pony
Now from where I was sitting he started his evasives well before he was in any kind of trouble which seemed to me to indicate he saw the pony all along.
In any event he musta got pretty shot up cause while he defeated the pony he was smoking.
Next thing I know he is whining over Vox about not getting a check 6 call.

I've seen this type of thing hapen more then once. Someone see's a plane comming down and evades, wins or looses the fight then complains about not getting a check 6 when it was perfectly clear he didnt need one.

Another thing that has happened to me on more then one occasion is someone  complaining that I didnt give a check 6.
To whom it may concern.
Look
I give check 6's whenever I can. I give them when it does not look as though you see the bogie.
If you start doing evasives before I get to give a check 6
Im not going ot bother cause you have already spotted it.
If you do not get a check 6 from me and get shot it is more then likely, and highly probable  because I didnt see you to know you needed one,was not looking at your six to know you needed one and quite possably because I was checking my OWN 6 which is something you shoulda been doing yourself.
also I might have been dealing with wife,child,phone,pet ack.

  So do NOT come over vox ranting and raving at me for not giving a check 6 from me when you needed one if you ever want one from me again because now my policy is going to be that if you do, in the future I will make a point of watching you get killed without warning.

And to the person who frequents these boards  that the other night that was upset with me for not giving a check6 (whom I didnt see to know he needed one)
You can KMA
I am NOT your mommy. Its not my job to wetnurse you,wipe your nose,your butt, or watch your 6. particularly when I have 3 bogies of my own. to keep track of.
I give 6 calls when I can. And if I cant I dont.
Simple as that