Author Topic: Best Climb Speed Con't for Nashwan (Read 13401 times)

justin_g · « **Reply #150 on:** August 27, 2004, 02:02:48 PM »

lol, thats my chart from the first page!

MiloMorai · « **Reply #151 on:** August 28, 2004, 10:45:23 AM »

Has Crumpp abandoned this thread? Or is he just away?

Angus · « **Reply #152 on:** August 28, 2004, 05:18:16 PM »

HiTech Rocks!

Crumpp · « **Reply #153 on:** August 28, 2004, 06:08:58 PM »

LOL

He what I said still hold true. The FW-190 just has to maintain an airspeed of 250 IAS or above in order to do it.

Crumpp

Crumpp · « **Reply #154 on:** August 28, 2004, 06:10:28 PM »

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He what I said still hold true.

Hey what I said still holds true.

Angus · « **Reply #155 on:** August 29, 2004, 07:00:45 AM »

250 miles is a long way from 170.

Crumpp · « **Reply #156 on:** August 29, 2004, 09:18:29 AM »

It still occurs though. It just doesn't go all the say up to best climb speed and angle.

If the 190 is going fast than 250 mph and starts to climb, the spitfire pilot cannot directly follow and will be left behind.

Crumpp

Angus · « **Reply #157 on:** August 29, 2004, 10:55:22 AM »

I wonder by how much, that's all.
If the 190 wants to escape upwards, the difference at say 250 mph would have to be quite a bit.

Crumpp · « **Reply #158 on:** August 29, 2004, 11:52:30 AM »

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I wonder by how much, that's all.

It's not big difference in speed bro. Whenever the the FW-190 is going 250 mph or faster he can climb at a shallow angle and the spitfire cannot follow. The faster he goes the steeper the angle up to a point.

Crumpp

gripen · « **Reply #159 on:** August 29, 2004, 02:32:41 PM »

Now if someone comes out with the real tested evidence that the Fw 190 was signifiqantly faster than the Spitfire IX.

gripen

Crumpp · « **Reply #160 on:** August 29, 2004, 05:21:32 PM »

It doesn't have to be significantly faster.

Crumpp

Thrawn · « **Reply #161 on:** August 30, 2004, 01:28:33 AM »

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Originally posted by Crumpp
He what I said still hold true. The FW-190 just has to maintain an airspeed of 250 IAS or above in order to do it.

Holy crap.

I believe that's spelt, "Well looks like I was wrong guys, thanks for patiently taking all that time to educate me. "

Crumpp · « **Reply #162 on:** August 30, 2004, 05:27:27 AM »

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lol, thats my chart from the first page!

Yes it is. And here is my reply from the first page. It doesn't occur at all the points I thought it did.

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Thanks for the effort you put into that graph. The Spits and 190's in Ah have the same Best Climb Speed. It still illustrates the point though.

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Thrawn wrote:
Holy crap. I believe that's spelt, "Well looks like I was wrong guys, thanks for patiently taking all that time to educate me. "

I believe it's called "read the thread, you might learn something".

Crumpp

Crumpp

niknak · « **Reply #163 on:** August 30, 2004, 10:03:06 AM »

If you are in FW trying to escape you would dive, not go into sustained climb at 250 mph. Most spit pilots would just lose ground and climb at a higher rate then dive at the FW.

Plus any speed advantage held by the FW in level flight will diminish as you start climbing. Any attempt to climb away from a spit is stupid. The point is that around 250 mph sustained climb the planes should be evenly mathched.

That is not to say a FW with superior energy would not zoom climb away to take the intiative in a fight.

hitech · « **Reply #164 on:** August 30, 2004, 10:09:39 AM »

niknak: How you would use that as an advantge is.

1. Get speration to make sure you are out of guns range.
2. Hold speed to around 300 in a sustained climb.
3. When alt / E advantage has been gained reverse over the top and rope the spit.
4. If spit choose to go into a max rate climb (the correct counter manuver) just leave and find another fight.

Hitech