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Offline KaK3MAW

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closing a thread/remove perk planes from eny
« on: August 22, 2004, 03:19:55 PM »
Im started a thread last night and find it is closed. HT you have my email you could give me courtesy of why it was closed.
For all you who just say switch countries, I belong to a squad that is dedicated to Knights, I fly for the squad and country comoraderie against dedicated foes. That is how I chose to play, so your suggestions are moot.
VAD, your suggestion to fly 202 against 262 and f4u-c because they are a good match had to be a feable attempt at sarcasm or you dont know what you are talking about, also vad i ussaully fly planes with eny values above 30 and if or when I ever  see you in the air  youll see how dangerous they can be
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2004, 05:24:15 PM »
I suspect if you re-read your original post in the cold light of day you may get a clue. It didnt appear to be in the new spirit of the BBS.

However in response I would firstly ask how many fighter perks you have 1000 , 2000 , more ?

The way I see it side balance with perk planes excluded doesnt give anyone with lotsa perks a reason to move sides to balance out numbers even when they are increased values. All it does is make those with low perks feel left out and have less choice than the Vets with lots of perks.

The only way to allow perk rides in this scenario would be to make the perks a percentage of perks earned ( subject to a min value) when side balance kicks in. This way if you want your 262 it will cost 50%  of your perks (or whatever percentage is agreed on)

If you dont want to loose that many either dont fly it or change sides so it is normal cost.




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Re: closing a thread/remove perk planes from eny
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2004, 06:05:43 PM »
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VAD, your suggestion to fly 202 against 262 and f4u-c because they are a good match had to be a feable attempt at sarcasm or you dont know what you are talking about, also vad i ussaully fly planes with eny values above 30 and if or when I ever  see you in the air  youll see how dangerous they can be


Certainly, it wasn't sarcasm. Sarcasm is not tolerated here according to rules number 4,5 and 14 of "Forum rules" above. And I have never said that these planes are good match. Of
course, they are not. 202 is much better.

And please don't tell me that I don't understand what I am talking
about. It is not me who are talking. Week ago I got a lot of advices, and now I am just repeating them. For example, humble wrote the following:

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As for planes, given the fact that I stopped flying during the "beta" phase of AH2 FM issues might be different, but as a trainer I'd always recommend the 205/F6/La-5. Great planes that can kill anything in the arena 1 vs 1 and also give reasonable survival potential in the MA. Beyond that the Yak was easily the best all around plane in the set (IMO) while the 38 seems to have the most "potential" but really requires a good stick...if you dont mind fighting your way in and out the FM-2 is deadly.


Sorry, I changed 205 to 202. It is my fault, and I apologize. But anyway, this is the opinion of official HTC trainer. 205 can kill anything. Yak is the best.  
And this is just one of the replys. I got them a lot, and mostly from the guys who have much better k/d then you and me.

Would you like to argue with them?

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Don't expect....
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2004, 06:18:21 PM »
a reason to close a thread, or not post.

Offline Jasta

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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2004, 06:58:17 PM »
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Offline phookat

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2004, 07:38:06 PM »
LOL Vad :D

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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2004, 08:51:15 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2004, 11:00:59 PM »
Simple solution is to realize the BBS has changed and will be a heavily edited exchange of ideas - at least away from the OC (they have seemed to allow that to stay as is and I'm grateful).
Personaly, I find it obnoxious to cut any post that isn't outright profanity, but thats just me - that old democratic ideals thing floating in my brain. Its their board - I just won't use it much away from the OC. I find it amusing people seem to find the age old, time tested formula of open communication can be improved on. It a private board, so its their right to run it smart or not so smart - I dun care (aint my money).

Maybe they're a little bored and wanna jostle the mouse maze a bit. "See them mouses run to the left when we tilt it to the right?"

And maybe they want the board to appeal to a broader range of costumers. Can't fault them for that - but quality will be the first casualty. Thats just my view - I like open boards without heavy handed moderation.
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« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2004, 08:04:44 AM »
Opus: Open communication is fine. Just don't be yelling,or stomping your feet when your trying to communicate.

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« Reply #9 on: August 23, 2004, 09:04:05 PM »
" Open communication is fine. Just don't be yelling,or stomping your feet when your trying to communicate."

A lot of times emphatic posts are just a side effect of the medium. There is no excuse for using profanity - its not needed and only impresses the 12- 14 year olds. But I think some people word messages strongly (again -no profanity), becacause it feels emotion is lost in the text (and so we invent emoticons).

 I know I do. I don't speak so emphaticaly to people in real life where I have the ability to make eye contact. Eye contact sets the tone, but is of course impossible in text. Emoticons help, but they fall short most times.

So sometimes the stamping feet is just overkill in making sure the point comes across. I think most times its not meant to be arrogant or hysterical, but just an attempt to to penetrate the cold communication of text.

Now face to face, I could shrug and let you know this is simply my take on this, and I'm not trying to instruct anyone. "IMHO" starts to sound goofy after awhile - I aint all that humble :D

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« Reply #10 on: August 23, 2004, 09:35:02 PM »
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[B"IMHO" starts to sound goofy after awhile - I aint all that humble :D [/B]



and here I thought everytime I was using IMHO, I was abbreviating "In My Honest Opinion"...geez
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2004, 11:23:45 AM »
It may in fact mean that now, TC.  There's a new generation on the internet.

http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/i/IMHO.html

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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2004, 01:43:30 PM »
QOUTE:Sorry, I changed 205 to 202. It is my fault, and I apologize. But anyway, this is the opinion of official HTC trainer. 205 can kill anything. Yak is the best.
And this is just one of the replys. I got them a lot, and mostly from the guys who have much better k/d then you and me.
VAD, I've found few planes can kill  me in a hurri2 when in turn fight or stall fighting and it comes down to who makes mistake first or who is better.
To me the p38 is one of easiest planes to kill if  cought with less Energy but if flown by certain people it is unkillable so the pilot makes the plane I think. I apologize if i ofended oyur reply


adjuster:  you are correct  my killed thread was too sarcastic and critical without being possitive my apologies, as far as how many perk points i have I try to stay at 1000 fighter points so i can fly 262's regardless of cost and then if i do something stupid and lose one I have enough to go up again in another, fly with anger and hot head and ussually lose another:)
then i have to fly a couple weeks to build back up to 1000 points
Leave perk system as is and take em off eny effect is still my suggestion p.s Adjuster, your reccommendation to 'just switch sides' isnt an option if I want to reamin MAW, that is grounds for automatically removal from squad, we are dedicated knights fighting dedicated enemies/friends, striving for more community comoraderia
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2004, 02:44:04 PM »
Eeeeeek:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:


"Sorry, I changed 205 to 202. It is my fault, and I apologize. But anyway, this is the opinion of official HTC trainer. 205 can kill anything. Yak is the best.
And this is just one of the replys. I got them a lot, and mostly from the guys who have much better k/d then you and me.

Would you like to argue with them?"

Hehe,

I'm not an "official" HTC anything....I was one of the original group of trainers and like to think I did more to help than hinder those who came in contact with me in that capacity. Personally I believe that the pilot is 80% of the equation in air combat. The planes that I mentioned all have a solid combination of speed acceleration & handling and can be flown as B&Z, Energy or angles fighters successfuly. I found that individuals who were directed to either a T&B fighter (spit or zeke) or B&Z fighter (190D/pony) seemed to rely more on their ride and less on themselfs.

My comments as they relate to the recent changesin plane availability simply point out that the vast majority of the planes modeled here are quite capable and will perform reasonably well in the MA (exceptionly well with an exceptional pilot). I find the entire series of posts on this topic to be excessive. Plenty of WW2 pilots on all sides were asked to fly in harms way in less than stellar planes...why assume you automatically get the pick of the litter.

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« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2004, 12:22:39 AM »
QUOTE::' I find the entire series of posts on this topic to be excessive. Plenty of WW2 pilots on all sides were asked to fly in harms way in less than stellar planes...why assume you automatically get the pick of the litter.'
Humble, i believe the purpose of the GAME is to have fun rather than literally recreate realistic ww2 sim,  there are too numerous features to name then all, but we can start with buff gunnery, turret tuffness, being able to turn engine on and  off at full throttle with impunity etc etc. so I dont think it is unrealistic to expect to fly whatever plane AH has to offer for your $15.
Let the ganging continue, many more people accept imbalance than whine about it, and I think many more people are at threshold of tolerance and acceptance of all the changes andminute by minute arena ENY staus changes.
Take perk planes out of eny I still say , that is the best counter to gangs. It only takes 4 o 5 135perk point 262's to stop  an offensive of overwhelming odds and hold a front in check, especially when opposing country's 262  cost250+ perks