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Offline rpm

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« Reply #30 on: August 23, 2004, 11:57:02 PM »
Nash, I could be wrong. I have always said Dubya was a puppet. Rove's likely got a deniability shell installed around him.
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2004, 12:03:01 AM »
Then it comes down to yet another question of either stupidity or complicity.

How many passes does this arse get?

Personally, I think it has always been both.

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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2004, 12:09:36 AM »
I think it's a lot of column A, and a smattering of column B.
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2004, 01:04:57 AM »
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Why can't you just cop to it Holden? We're reasonable men here.


Cop to what? That partisans support groups that may be of help to their POV?  Okay.

You said 'nope' to GH question on whether you believe that MoveOn was part of Kerry's machine. But you seem perfectly happy to believe that swift vets cannot possibly have a similar status.  

Now you cop to 527's on either end of the political spectrum showing that anyone's holier than thou attitude is ridiculous when criticizing the 527's on the opposite end.
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2004, 08:13:50 AM »
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The head of the swift boats vets said that if Bush had personally asked them to stop the ad, they wouldn't have.


I believe they are about as independent as MoveOn, and are exercising their 1st ammendment rights for pretty much the same reasons. What if Carl Rove had asked them? It's still a case of having your cake and eating it too.

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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2004, 09:21:13 AM »
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527's on either end of the political spectrum showing that anyone's holier than thou attitude is ridiculous when criticizing the 527's on the opposite end.


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This is all simply riduckyewlooseness.
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2004, 10:54:40 AM »
Politics have always been hardball. You'll never win by whining, you win by playing smarter and harder if necessary.
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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2004, 10:58:01 AM »
so it seems this all boils down to "your liars are worse than mine"