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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2004, 06:50:44 PM »
Went to the 99 AW con...3 or 4 327th steel talons went to the airshow along with Moss and a few others...anyway Moss and I were talking on the bus over and he mentioned the beta (sept 99) and I signed up...AW was getting old and stale so I guess I showed and never really went back (kept my AW account for a good year but never flew cept KOTH and squad night)....

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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2004, 06:55:00 PM »
Nice Read 73!

For me it was close to 3 years ago now I think. It was a rainy day here and I was bored out of my skull. I had gotten the... I dont know, urge to "fly" an airplane game is what I called it at the time lol. So I started looking around for something to download that I could play with on my computer. I had all the stupid little games you could think of.

Finnaly I checked out cnet.com and came to a game called Aces High. It looked pretty cool so I downloaded it and installed it. I had no Joystick, no headset no nothing. A keyboard and a mouse.

I turned on the game and found this odd clipboard which I finnaly figured out. I clicked Off line and got even more confused. lol. I got into the first plane that I could figure out how to make get to the runway and it started taking off on me automaticly... Until I bumped the mouse and hit the ground lol. :D Well I spent the rest of the afternoon trying to fly with a mouse which was a real sight to see. Within the next few days I went out and got a Joystick. It wasnt even a "twisty" stick or anything fancy. Just a plain jane joystick with a trigger and some buttons. lol.

So I hooked that up, got it working and went back into the game. WOW It was alot easier to fly with this new Joystick lol. So I thought I was Mr Bigshot flying about from base to base off line while thse stupid plane circling around above me would follow me around even after I awqwardly shot them down!

One day I decided to check out this "On line" thing. So I made an account and and went in there. During my first few weeks on line there is only one word to really sum up how I felt back then... Confused... Beyond confused even. I'd up and before I knew it, I'd die before I could even see what was shooting at me. Well that sucked! I said haha. I found the B17 tho. And that sucker had a tail gun! I could see them and shoot at them too! So I spent many days in that bomber.

I didnt know how to type, or which channel to even use to type to someone lol. I was just another n00b that had no idea what was going on or how to play the game.

Im not sure who it was and I wish I could remember so I could thank him... But one day I was flying blindly as usual in a SpitV and this 51 came up and started messing around with me. I think he was probably laughing so hard that he felt bad to shoot me right away. lol. Anyways, watching how he flew was damn cool to say the least. And even tho I was in a turn fighter, I had no idea how to really turn fight or even what turn fighting really was. All I knew is that it was the easiest plane to fly. lol. He out turned my little spitV with his P51 and I had to know how he did it.

From then on I was on a never ending quest to really learn what ACM was, and how these people were doing what they were doing with these planes. That was then this is now and I'm still here, and still learning cool little tricks and still having a blast.

Not to take away from 73's story, but in the end, right now, I am still here because of all the great people I've met along the way. Both in real life and in the game. For this very reason I will most likely be here until AH decides its time to close the door. (I pray that day will never come)

So there's my little story on how I got here.
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2004, 06:56:40 PM »
In ye olde 1980s days of Atari ST (4k memory!) was browsing a shareware rack and found a plain little floppy with Air Warrior typed on it.  

What's this? I asked the store owner.

You play it on line, he said.

On line what?  I asked.

GEnie, he said.

What's that? I asked.

Get a modem, dial your phone and play it on line, he said.

You're kidding, I said.

It was local long distance call to Rockville where General Electric let people with new-fangled home computers use some of its lines at night when they weren't so busy.

$6 an hour for Air Warrior, $7 an hour for local long distance, total $13 an hour to see little stick figure airplanes with big WWII names.  You shot at them and PEOPLE operating them shot back at you!  Real people, not AI robot responses!

Been a WWII flight sim enthusiast ever since.

And now $15 a MONTH for UNLIMITED play on GIGAHERTZ machine over CABLE high speed connection!  And even talk real time audio with buddies while flying.  

Totally incredible.  

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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2004, 06:59:33 PM »
This is by memory so some of the details might be a tiny bit off - feel free to correct me ;)

In 1995, I was going through pilot training at Laughlin AFB, TX.  My internet connection was a long-distance dialup connection to netcom in San Antonio, for about 15 cents a minute.  FWIW, my largest phone bill that year was $1100 and I also spent a couple of hundred on WarBirds that month too.  

I had been playing microsoft flight simulator since high school and enjoyed the heck out of Chuck Yeager's Air Combat, but as my real life flying skills increased I wanted a bigger challenge.  I'd heard about AW and even tried out the boxed game, but it never clicked with me and I didn't have any money until 1995 anyhow.  Then on alt.games.pc.flight-sim, I heard about this cool new game you could download and fly online for free.  Getting online was a bit of a hack since it required a telnet connection (the tcp-ip connections everyone uses now were still almost unheard of at home), but on my old 386 DRx2 based system, all things were possible.  I had a shiny new degree after 4 years in a computer science and engineering program, so whacking about online was second nature.  I already had the thrustmaster FCS/WCSII programmable setup, so I was ready for the game.  This was in mid 1995, with CK .8something if I recall correctly.

At the initial game setup, I couldn't think of a good ident so I chose "suck" because I'd read some newsgroup threads about people showing up and bragging that they were "good at flightsims" and I wanted everyone to know I didn't think I was so good.  It turned out to be a good choice even though after my second day online my K/D never dropped below 1 (so I really WAS "good at flightsims"?  LOL.  I still suck, just ask Drex.)

My first online experience was a mixture of luck and pure dweebery.  It took me less than an hour to figure out how to get off the ground in one piece.  Once airborn, I proceeded to shoot at all these guys with red icons because red guys are bad, right?  Well, it turns out that all new players started out flying for red, oops.  After 3 fairly quick kills I read the text buffer, apologized, and set out on my way to find some real opponents.  The terrain at this point was pretty flat, with some hills but definately not what you'd call "rolling".  That came later.

I met up with a guy with the callsign "grdr" (for grinder), and he gave me my first virtual BFM lesson.  I learned firsthand how flat turns at the merge don't work, so we fought and I died.  We flew a lot against each other and at some point I started being able to hold my own.  I switched countries to fly with him, and we ended up making a pretty good team.  He'd get kills, and I'd scare people off of his 6.  I never minded letting him get the kills and I can say my greatest online flightsim skill is being able to help others survive and get their own kills.  That's the only reason Drex and I were any good at the dueling tournys - I focused on keeping us both alive so he could do the actual killing, and it worked just like it did back in 1995 winging with grdr.

Since I was living in the dorm and had some extra cash to spend,  I ended up buying a screaming fast ZEOS pentium 66 with a full 32 meg EDO ram.  At the time, 66 mhz over 60 mhz and 32 over 16 meg ram, let alone the EDO, bought a huge price premium.  I got the ZEOS with all the bells and whistles because it was hands down the fastest prebuilt system on the market, plus it had the magic touch - an S3-968 based video card.  That was important at the time because CK temporarily used a graphics engine that used S3 specific hardware to allow for some neat rolling terrain at what was then the amazing resolution of 640x480.  Although the graphics engine changed and we went to what turned into WarBirds, that S3 video card remained about the fastest on the market until the Tseng ET-6000 hit the street.

Near the end of 1995, I found I was going to be assigned to the F-15E so I changed my ident to "eagl" and I've kept it ever since.  I even dueled one person to keep the ident, because he was using "eag1" and the font in WB at the time made the 1 and l look the same.  I won a best 2 out of 3 duel, and he was really cool about the whole thing and changed his ident to something else.

I resisted the move to the windows version because the dos version flew better.  Oh yes, WB was a DOS APP!  For a long time too, since the dos version really did fly better than the windows version for a long long time.  Looking back, I can't believe they developed both the dos and windows versions for so long.  Technology marches on, and going to a windows-only game enabled a lot of things like real TCP-IP connectivity (even though the base connection was still essentially telnet for a long time) and lots of other features that kept HT from having to code for specific hardware.

At some point Tone did some coding, and that had mixed results.  Tone's Wildfire / HQ was an interactive text "bot" that could act as an intelligent message handler, provide realtime scoring inflight, track squadrons and create virtual radio channels by accepting text commands and sending private messages to anyone on the virtual channel, etc etc.  It was a perfect ground control executive officer, but it relied entirely on parsing the text from the game and a database on his own machine, and this had multiple ramifications...  Ultimately the telnet and parsable text interface went away and HQ died with it.  In the many years since then, nothing has come even remotely close to the functionality it provided players and scenario managers.

The second thing Tone (and several others) did was create Roger Wilco, a voice app that ran quite well in the background.  RW had hooks into MSIE, various messenger services, and basically sparked a dozen competitors that eventually crowded RW out of the market.  Too bad, but of course AH has voice and that might not have happened if Tone and the crew at Resounding hadn't proven the technology.  They did radio-quality voice over a 56k modem and it didn't cause warps, amazing.

Anyhow, that's a bit of what I remember from way back when.  Hopefully my memory isn't too inaccurate or biased.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2004, 07:07:31 PM by eagl »
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2004, 07:06:55 PM »
well...i always had a bit of a thing for flight simulators, having had a blast when i was like 7-8 playing ace of aces...so when we got a new computer in 2002 (typing from it now) and got the internet hooked up (this was during a teacher strike, so i had lots of time on my hands) i started poking about for a ww1 flight simulator, having also messed about with red baron on a 486, but couldent find anything. then i saw this game, thought "ONLY 50mb, it cant possibly be any good" then after going past it a few times over the course of a couple days i finally thought oh what the heck, and got er...the fact that i didnt have a joystick didnt bug me, so i spent most of my 2 week free trial in the training arena just figuring out how to keep the damn thing in the air. after that i was HOOKED, at christmas that year i got a joystick, which lasted about 1 week, then it broke, but by that point i was fine with that as i wasnt much good with it anyway...took to long for the planes to move about...the next thing i know i am  replying to this thread...

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« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2004, 07:57:34 PM »
I tried Air Warrior back in 1994 and was less than thrilled. I joined Warbirds during open beta and was enthralled with the game that Dale/Doug had created. They continually improved the game through incremental patches and add-ons (sound familiar?) until they sold it to a crazed madman and a bunch of suits who totally killed the game I had come to love. Took a look at WW2OL when it went closed beta as much of the staff was former friends and adversaries from teh WB era. But WW2 was a joke, and as much as I disliked iEN I could not see quitting WB for WW2OL. I cancelled my Warbirds account when AH went open beta even though AH was raw and obviously incomplete. Almost 5 years later I have never regreted that decision.

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« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2004, 08:01:31 PM »
Well I got started not in WB or AW. I got started in Fighter Ace. I was just goofing one night and came across it on MSN. I thought to myself.."Flying Online in Real TIme?" HmmIll see what this is. Well I D/l'ed it. There I was flying some stupid looking plane thinking this is pretty cool. My wife laffed and said you go get em Fighter Jock.

Well I stayed inj FA for a while. I joined a squad who had a physco for a CO. But , I had made some online buds and we decided it was time to make our own squad and move on. So we did in Fighter Ace. Before long we were basically killing everything in sight. In Fighter Ace you used to get a star by you ID in the game signifying an Ace. So every 5 kills you had without dying you got another. So I had at one time 10 and was working on my 11th when I got killed. Talk about attracting a crowd. Like 3 low and slow Spit 14's in here and 30 guys with Alt and Speed.

Well my buddies and I had heard about WB. So we thought we would try it. In the process of getting ready to go there I found Aces High. So I D'l'ed them both and compared. Not much comparison to me. So we all had an RW meeting and decided we would as a squad go to AH. 6 of us made it.

We spent HOURS augering and getting our tails just handed to us over and over. Here we were just Aces in FA to be totally owned in AH. We were almost ready to quit when we just decided to make it work. So we got better and practiced and watched the better guys at the time til we finally got to where we could at least land a kill or 2.

That was back in like 2000 I think. It has been a great time. I have taken a couple of breaks from the game. Still suck but I enjoy it more than I did when I first came online here. VMF222 was our first squad we joined when we got here. JEBO44 was great. Airbat , majic (i think it was) Crawfish , Acid , and a few others were great to fly with. That squad as since gone and I am back again. I have had a couple other ID's.

Aces High is the greatest thing going in online Flight Sims. We tried WW2 Online when it came out. Not even close to the same thing.

I'm happy to be back. Game has changed , people have changed. What hasn't changed is those few fights you get. The ones where the hands are sweating..Legs going a 100 miles an hour. Heart pumping. Waiting on that angle or snapshot. Tryinmg to manuver onto the other guys six. All while either at 20 k or 200 ft. The fight lasting for what seems like hours and its only been 5 minutes. TYhose are the times , beit not as often as they used to be , that keep you glued to playing.

The commraderie that you have with your squaddies. The friends you make. Even tho you may not meet em ever in real life you share thoughts and daily things that happen. It's a great place here. This community sometimes (myself included ) tends to forget how good we have it.

A great staff that loves to make the game better...even tho we don't always agree...They have the best and are the best.

Thanks HTC for everything.

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« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2004, 08:15:39 PM »
I was visiting my hometown talking with my friend Bill, and I had mentioned that I decided to finally go online since AOL started its new unlimited access plan (thinking it was around nov-dec 95).  He told me there was a game on aol, airwarrior that was free to play.  He hooked me up on where to find it, and which arena to find him in when I got it installed.  

I signed up with my first inital and middle name for a CPID (TDale).  I was completely clueless when I got in there.  Planes had always interested me, and I could identify some of the plane set if I saw one in real life, but I knew absolutely nothing about air combat.  Before I even took my first flight, my friend Bill had his CO recruit me.  Carlos "fedex" Colon, and Kurt "Fike" Clark took me in right away and helped me along with the basics of what I should be doing.

Prior to that I had always enjoyed gaming, but this was different.  I was hooked right away by two things.  One I was playing aginst real people from all over the world (still a novel idea at the time), and two, the guys in the squad were really great to hang out with, and I was learning as much about computers/web/html from them as I was about the game.

About 8 months later my friend Bill and his wife came to visit and stayed at our house for the weekend.  He watched me fly, and I was explaining what I thought were cool moves while doing them.  When I landed he just looked at me and shook his head in amazement.  "Dude, I have no idea what you were doing.  You're using buttons that I didnt know were there."  After that confidence booster, I became a hopeless adict.

After another year, when AW2 was beta testing on AOL, I decided I wanted a more memorable ID.  Having just looked at a newspaper article where the cornor ruled the cause of death was murder for a man found dead in his truck with a shotgun blast through the back window (DUH! how hard was that to figure out?), I tried a 5 letter version of murder.  It was avalible, and I stuck with it since then.

Years later when I checked in on bigweek, and seen all the Kesmai Studios people were laid off, and Kesmai was shut down, I realized I better start looking for a new game.  I had dabbled in Warbirds, and I really liked what I saw there, but prefered the friendships and community in AW.  I had heard that the HiTech of WB had went out on his own and started AH.  Being that I liked what HT did in early versions of WBs, AH was the logical place to start.  

I downloaded AH very shortly afterwards, and when the flood of AWers came in a few months later it felt like home.
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« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2004, 08:26:21 PM »
I just followed all the sheep.  Mbaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2004, 08:45:19 PM »
The Readers Digest Version is on my Squads Webpage in the History Section :)

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« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2004, 08:54:14 PM »
Playing anything online wasn't really an option till we got broadband about 4/5 years ago. Much earlier to that I'd been into games on my mates Spectrum and Amiga, loading the games through the tape deck wasn't funny but if it all hung together we'd be playing all night.

Got out of the habit as I grew older, didn't have or think about a PC until the Mrs needed one about 8/9 years ago. Splashed out £1.5k on a IBM Aptiva (soon to be renamed CrAptiva) with a 100Mhz Pentium and 32Mb of RAM. Had this tiny 12inch goldfish bowl monitor and a whopping 1Gb hardrive.

Picked up games where I'd left off and as I'd built model planes as a kid, I started looking for something online when we got broadband. Found AH about 4 years ago and been playing off and on since.

I knew sweet FA about planes or the game mechanics, pure RTFM material. I remember the first time logging in, trying to avoid colliding with my teamates on the runway thinking, these guys are nuts! (turned out most of them were but for different reasons) I spawned in hangars for the first month, just in case.

I used to choose my plane purely on how much ammo it carried, my reasoning being the more ammo, the more people I could shoot down.  Getting shot down for the 4,592 time for no kills was a pivotal moment, it began to dawn on me there was a bit more to all this than I first thought.

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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2004, 08:54:28 PM »
Nice reads all of ya :)



Octavius got his start flying back in '95 with a boxed Navy sim called "US Navy Fighters GOLD" (the gold included a few new aircraft such as the Sea Harrier and AC130U Spectre Gunship).  My buddy and I would stay up all night creating kick bellybutton custom missions and having eachother give them a run.  Oh how I wished that game had multiplayer capabilities.  I was barely breaking 12-15 frames per second on my old 486 and would scream with excitement every time I saw it break 20fps :D  Oh the polygons were beautiful.

Then one day I was surfing around on AOL's lovely (pitifull) game selection and came across a game called "Air Warrior."  It was free, so I gave it a shot.  Took all night to download on my 28.8.  The next day I was disappointed to find out I needed this crap called "ram" to run it.  When I discovered this "ram" cost about $80 for a few "megabytes" I flipped.  I ended up borrowing my dad's laptop in order to run it.  The laptop had no serial port for my ancient CH joystick from 1993.  I think it was called a Talon...?  3-4 button, right-handed stick (and I'm a south paw).  Anyway, stickless, I used a mouse.  

Air Warrior rocked my world.  I do remember scoring a few kills with my dirty, jumpy mouse.  There were so many aircraft, I had no idea what to pick.  I just remember seeing a wall of black profiles of each aircraft and clicking the "coolest" looking plane.  The only particular sortie I remember involved a fully manned B17.  I think I flew for the green C country.  Cz or whatever the L337 AW crowd called it ;)  We made it to the target, dropped a bomb that missed horribly, and successfully RTB'd with multiple kills for each gunner.  It was great seeing my crew cheering on the text.  I flew under the handle of "Maz."  We ended up dumping AOL and thus lost free AW.

A few years down the line, I'm reading a PC Gamer article and I see this flight sim called "Aces High".  I think it was a winter issue in early 2000.  I just spent a half hour looking for it, but with out avail.  I think, "Hey, this looks a lot like that Air Warrior game..."  I go to the website, download it, and install.  Bam, I'm hooked.  I instantly open an account after flying offline for a little bit.  I still remember those original non-custom sounds for all aircraft.  If you want a serious flashback, replace all your sounds with the originals from the early versions.

After dweebing around for a while in Tours 3 or 4, flying anything and everything, Sunchasr invited me into a squad called "The Mad Bombers."  Yeah, I was a buff dork, mainly the B26.  I had a model of a B26 a long time ago and freaked when I saw that it was in the game.  We went on HQ runs, base captures, all kinds of neat things.  The old tours were great.  We were amazed when the total numbers in the MA exceeded 100.  I still had the handle "Maz" at the time.  After my tour was up, real life got in the way and I was AWOL.

When I returned, I used the handle "Executor." Shortly after, I think it was July of 2000, Ripsnort invited me to the VMF-323 Death Rattlers for an "experimental squad."  It was all downhill from there.  I was introduced to the fighter and JABO.  Very organized, very quick, very fun.  

Eventually my old CH stick called it quits.  I bought a Cyborg 3D Digital with a twisty rudder (NO MORE KEYBOARD RUDDER FOR ME!) and a wave of skill washed over me.  Hehe, my gunnery improved tenfold.  I still sucked though.  It took a while to get where I am today.  A lot of flying, a lot of frustration, and a lot of reading.  

The Death Rattlers called it quits after a few years.  I dweebed around as solo for a few months and then these tards called The ASSASSINS, an ancient squadron of divine sticks with roots in WarBirds, invited me to fly with them.  I've been the newguy for a little while now.  

..... aaaaaand this brings me to now.  Aces High has changed a ton, but the more things change the more they stay the same.  I am still a freakin dweeb and I still love the feel of wool on my skin.  

Thanks HTC for this game.  And thanks for this BBS... a large portal to the instardnet.  :cool:
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« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2004, 09:18:24 PM »
Umm, was looking for a WW2 flying sim and stumbled across AH1.  I had it for a month before I finally took my 2 weeks online.  I was hooked.

3 weeks in a guy named Jamx contacted me in the middle of me fighting 4 rooks trying to defend a base.  He asked me to join a squad.  Best thing I ever did after playing Ah1.
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« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2004, 09:28:26 PM »
I was over at Beemers and it was 13th TAS Squad Nite.

To put it simple , they were having fun and I couldn't believe a bunch of guys from Kansas and Europe were talking to him like they were having beers across the table from each other.

Flying is the second reason I still love this game HTC

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« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2004, 10:10:14 PM »
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