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Offline SlapShot

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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2004, 02:20:35 PM »
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Howz bout this...?

If you lose the port a CV is attached to, you can move it to another friendly port and attach it there. This would take away the reason people 'hide' CV's.


So if the CV was eventually sunk, would it then be re-attached back to it's original port/object ?

Sounds like a whole bunch of funky coding on HT's part.

As much as I don't like GV hiding, I don't want to see this tactic removed completely, just trying to make it harder for one goober to take complete control over the whole fleet and not allowing those who want to go offensive with a CV, take a CV in action.

Also, to prevent someone taking control of a CV and not be anywhere near the action, thus leaving the CV at the mercy of inbound bombers. This happens alot.
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2004, 02:30:59 PM »
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New mission opportunity perhaps?

Perhaps a flight of b26s on a hunter/killer mission to find the carriers. Or a long endurance fighter just to scout them out. A p51 with DTs - hey it's boring but rewarding.

I'd do it just to screw over a carrier hiding mofo.


Well, I think the most preferred method usually is just to have someone spy it out, just like the "silent shore battery" has become popular.

How about just having cv's visible all the time like any other base?

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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2004, 03:16:39 PM »
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So if the CV was eventually sunk, would it then be re-attached back to it's original port/object ?

Sounds like a whole bunch of funky coding on HT's part.

As much as I don't like GV hiding, I don't want to see this tactic removed completely, just trying to make it harder for one goober to take complete control over the whole fleet and not allowing those who want to go offensive with a CV, take a CV in action.

Also, to prevent someone taking control of a CV and not be anywhere near the action, thus leaving the CV at the mercy of inbound bombers. This happens alot.


Slap...

No, that's the point...and yes, I realize there would need to be different criteria for CV captures.

Why make it easy for HT....easy is for gurls and La7 drivers. Last time I checked...HT was neither :D.

Had another idea...but, realized it wouldn't prevent CV hiding. The problem is that hiding a vunerable CV makes tactical sense. For something to work, you have to take away the tactical reasons for hiding them. Note: not saying I agree with it. :)

What has to be done is to come up with another way to capture CV's. As long as all you have to do is capture its port to get the CV...it will continue to make sense to hide them.
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2004, 04:42:48 PM »
Agree this nonsense of hiding CV's is for the birds.
And even those "Ranking" folks that do take over sometimes of the ones that aren't being hidden. Judging from what I see them sometimes do with the CV well,,,, I wouldn't let them control a 5 foot piece of driftwood in a half filled bathtub.

And I agree that something better should be implemented in how a CV gets controlled

Here's an idea.
Somehow I think its unlikely that HTC is going to give up on the Rank controls the CV notion. So how about this.
the only way you can control a CV is if you actually on or operating from it. Meaning you had to have taken off from the CV. And then if you haven't done anything to the CV for say 15 min, you automatically loose control of it.

This would prevent people from controlling a CV that they arent anywhere near. which I've seen more then once.

On One occasion a "Ranking" (and I use the term loosely)  Player had and refused to give up control or even move a CV that was desperately needed to help prevent a Bish advance.
What I ended up doing was finding the highest ranking Knight player and appeal to him to seize control of the CV and move it to where it was needed Which he was so kind to do.
End result was we got the CV into position in the nick of time to be effective, not only stopped the Bish advance but then managed to use this very same CV this "Ranking" pilot wouldn't give up to attack and capture 5 more Bish bases and turned the Bish from offensive operations to defensive for the rest of the night,
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2004, 04:43:29 PM »
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agree 100 %

Would like to see another condition added to CV control.

The person who has control has to be within a certian radius (miles) of the CV. This would force the captain to actually stay within control range. Leave the radius ... lose control.

It would also help to eliminate the hogging of CV Control  by just 1 person, unless of course CV Groups are steaming next to each other.


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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2004, 05:33:28 PM »
If my country is hiding a CV and I'm on, just ask me and I will gladly tell you where it is and escort your bombers to it - under the condition that you promptly sink it, then direct it to the nearest enemy base and pick a fight. I'll be waiting.

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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2004, 05:33:48 PM »
I think to control the CV you must remain on the CV.

You up a plane, you lose control of cv.
You move to another base, you lose control of cv.

Mind you, the already established waypoints that you put there will remain but anyone else can control the cv once onboard and change them.

No rank system involved.  Simply put you must remain on the cv to maintain control of it.
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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2004, 05:39:47 PM »
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Howz bout this...?

If you lose the port a CV is attached to, you can move it to another friendly port and attach it there. This would take away the reason people 'hide' CV's.


Cool but that's pretty well suggesting an idea under the assumption that it's even possible to manipulate the TE or engine in such a way.

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« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2004, 05:44:43 PM »
Hide the CV, is that kinda like Hide the Salami?

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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2004, 07:02:24 PM »
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Cool but that's pretty well suggesting an idea under the assumption that it's even possible to manipulate the TE or engine in such a way.


Knowing HT...possible isn't the problem...practical might be. :)
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2004, 09:32:09 PM »
Why Dont the CV's Get Reset each Day when Scores are updated. So if you still owned the port you would have to Rehide it and the other team would know where it is to start each day. And if you have retaken the port you get it back.





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Ps Sorry if t his was already said, Didn't read all the posts >)
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« Reply #41 on: August 26, 2004, 02:19:19 PM »
If you don't like your cv being hid, don't loose the port. Defending the port=keeping your cv.
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« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2004, 08:08:15 PM »
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Why Dont the CV's Get Reset each Day when Scores are updated. So if you still owned the port you would have to Rehide it and the other team would know where it is to start each day. And if you have retaken the port you get it back.





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Ps Sorry if t his was already said, Didn't read all the posts >)


So what happens to the people using it at the time? some cv's might be in play and poof they're gone? bummer.

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« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2004, 12:56:39 PM »
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Originally posted by SlapShot
agree 100 %

Would like to see another condition added to CV control.

The person who has control has to be within a certian radius (miles) of the CV. This would force the captain to actually stay within control range. Leave the radius ... lose control.

It would also help to eliminate the hogging of CV Control  by just 1 person, unless of course CV Groups are steaming next to each other.


Yep, this has been mentioned before...Maybe someone's paying attention this time... Absentee admirals are the worst....

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« Reply #44 on: August 27, 2004, 05:36:57 PM »
I dont agree with hiding cv's either, use them the way there were intended to be used, offensively imo.

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If you don't like your cv being hid, don't loose the port. Defending the port=keeping your cv.


That isnt always possible. Sometimes your team just doesnt have enough players to defend everything that needs defending. If my team is badly outnumbered and we lose 4 ports (in addition to other bases) in one night.....should my team have to spend the rest of the week trying to find and sink them? I dont think so.


Lose the port, lose the cv is a very good idea imo.
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