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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2004, 09:24:42 AM »
Yes, it was the plastic comment. ;)

Lazs, my Bimmer is a commuting car...not a sports car, not a hot rod...its for COMMUTING! (30 mpg hwy, 27 city)  So I agree with you 100%!  My grandmother could build a faster, better hotrod! ;)

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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2004, 09:34:40 AM »
rip..  I simply don't like a plastic replica of a real car.   I don't like useless billet stuff.  I don't like the manufactured Hot Rods or the people who buy em.   32 Fords made of plastic with automatic transmissions in em?   Why stop at having someone build the car for you?  Why not pay some kid with a good left leg to drive it for you too?

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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2004, 09:35:19 AM »
email sent mini

would debate this engine

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/crate_engines_intro.html

also is it a stick or auto

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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2004, 09:48:58 AM »
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rip..  I simply don't like a plastic replica of a real car.   I don't like useless billet stuff.  I don't like the manufactured Hot Rods or the people who buy em.   32 Fords made of plastic with automatic transmissions in em?   Why stop at having someone build the car for you?  Why not pay some kid with a good left leg to drive it for you too?

lazs


Sorry, my misinterpretation of your above posts, I thought you were talking about todays modern muscle cars...the plastic is to make them lighter, and less prone to corrosion.

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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2004, 10:28:23 AM »
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Originally posted by Mini D

74k original miles (Dunno why I remembered 34k)
1 owner
All original and fully loaded
283 in it now
Never driven in the rain.

The owner (his father-in-law) died in 2001 and he has been trying to sell this for his mother-in-law.  The car has won first in several car shows, but does need new paint since the current paint is 40 years old and thin from waxing.  It still looks incredible though.


If you're looking for a car to do some heavy mods to, I would really suggest looking for a different one.  There are plenty of good Chevelle bodies out that there that you would be able to work over for a lot less cash.  I have no problem taking a beat up or incomplete car and doing what you want, but taking a low mile near mint '66 and working it over just feels so very wrong.

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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2004, 10:40:49 AM »
the nice thing about getting a car in good condition is that i do not have to pay thousands to get in good condition.

Watch the barrett jackson auto shows half those cars are not near original and often heavily modified, and they often sell for much more than originals.

The point of muscle cars is to change them and get them more power.

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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2004, 10:54:37 AM »
Lazs, I was thinking of putting an after market air intake on my Honda Civic. The brochure says it'll add 20 HP, an increase of 40%....

Whadda ya think? :)

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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2004, 10:55:30 AM »
Whaaa....! No pics yet?!? C'mon guys, I need visual aids;)

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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2004, 11:49:22 AM »
Laz, I been looking at a 32 Ford Duece to build.  Found a company that does steel stampings of the body and a trifold frame for it.
They even have the optional steel fenders/running boards, full beads on the edges.

Damn thing looks like it rolled off the Ford factory line, except for the 2 1/2" drop chop top.  It's got my itch going to build a street car.  Been a long time since I have done that.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2004, 11:58:36 AM »
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the nice thing about getting a car in good condition is that i do not have to pay thousands to get in good condition.

Watch the barrett jackson auto shows half those cars are not near original and often heavily modified, and they often sell for much more than originals.

The point of muscle cars is to change them and get them more power.


Getting a car in good condition doesn't have to mean a low mileage one owner numbers matching original car.  If you're planning on replacing the engine and modernizing the suspension and interior all you really need is a good body and frame, right?  

Here's a few that I found in a few minutes of searching:

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/detailbig.cfm/Autos__ID/208397

http://www.dealsonwheels.com/search/detailbig.cfm/Autos__ID/103221

You don't have to buy a rust bucket, just a car that's in good shape and has only the parts you need.  Why buy a "survivor" type car only to tear out all the parts that make it unique?  

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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2004, 12:02:24 PM »
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Watch the barrett jackson auto shows half those cars are not near original and often heavily modified, and they often sell for much more than originals.
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As for Barrett Jackson, if you watch closely the all original numbers matching cars will almost ALWAYS sell for a significantly higher price than a modified version of the same car.  Exceptions happen, but for the most part collectors are looking for original pieces and not someone's interpretation of it.  But IMO car collecting is stupid.  They're made to drive.  To have an ultra rare performance car spend it's remaining days in a garage is a sin to me.  For me it is more about preserving a piece of history.

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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2004, 12:54:23 PM »
Yeah, exceptions like this car that was built up the road from us here. http://www.barrett-jackson.com/auctionresults/common/cardetail.asp?id=175984 How many '55's bring 227 grand? :) That's insane. Although I hear tell it's an awesome ride. Don't knock car collectors too much. If all 30-40 fords were "driven" from when they were new, there wouldn't be anything worth building today. Thanks to car collectors we're all surprised by virgin cars that appear occasionally that nobody even knew about.

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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2004, 01:09:53 PM »
I've said it before and will say it again... there's no direct correlation between either modified or all original cars fetching higher resale prices.  It's simply a matter of finding people that love what you did enough to fight over it... or love the original enough to fight over it.  If that doesn't happen, you're not going to get much for the car.

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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2004, 01:15:38 PM »
In '77 my father and I did a ground up restoration of a '55 Chevy  convertible.  We drove it all the time.  He sold it in '00 or '01 for about $30k.  At the time we bought it, it was rusted on the quarter panels, above the headlights, etc.  I think we bought for about $5k, and I know we spent more than $30k over the years on it, but it was a fun project for us.  He had an extra engine, set off chrome bumbers and other body parts thrown in as well.

During that time, we wanted to do the whole Classic Chevy era.  We found a bunch of '57's, but not alot of '56's out there.  In any case, since we couldn't find what we liked or wanted, we never did get the set done.

Now, I've got a '66 Mustang Convertible, 289, Pony Seats, all original, that I drive alot as well, although I need to do some front end and tranny work on it now.  My wife thinks it doesn't need to be taking up space in the garage, and that's how we were able to buy the '55.

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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2004, 01:20:02 PM »
Cougar

Then feel free to give me money so i can get it in prestine condition, like removal of rust, dents, paint job etc. I will gladly except donations. :) Time and money are two very limiting factors for me, buying something at a good price and as close to what i want as possible makes more sense wouldn't you agree.

66 chevelles are not that uncommon, and resale value doesn't really mean much to me. I want something I will enjoy, what others enjoy also doesnt mean much to me.

I see your point of course, but I don't have the time...nor the money to work with almost nothing to start.

Also if it is fully complete when i buy I can make changes and still be able to drive it. If I get just a shell I will need to wait considerably longer and finish it to be able to enjoy driving it. Life is too short to wait for crap to get done.