Any old Air Warriors out there?????

[Alky]

Originally posted by HardRock

Shaky, not only is the gunnery hard but because the flight model is so wobbly its hard to aim with the thing doing a jitter bug. If anything WW2 were very stable gun platforms.

Hopefully you're not using the Logitech 3D, there's no hope for un-wobbling that stick
I bought one when I got into AH and now it sits on the shelf, went out and got a Saitek X45, much better but my gunnery still stinks but without wobble LOL.
They tell me the Saitek X52 is a good stick, waiting for the X45 to bust and I'll be trying it

[HardRock]

Thanks Todd. Will do.

I use the CH pro throtte/stick USB with simped rudders.


Hey Shaky. I see ya got yer Avatar up. Congrats on the SB. I know it's been a long time coming. Luckily you didn't have to face us shifty Patriots;-)

[Shaky]

After what they did to the Colts, I don't think the Pats woulda been a problem

[Grayeagle]

Was purty awesome seein ya up HR ..and Oldman

Kind of a shock not to see ya in an FW

I am usin 300-ish for convergence . . closer on my T&B rides ..further on my bomber busters.. I have gotten kills at 600 out with convergence at 300 ..notably in the spit II over the channel against a non-manuevering 109 that held still 'just' long enough He thought he was out far enough
-evil grin-

Them 4 .303's per wing will saw wings off now an then all by themselves.

Works with the Jug too ..even with convergence at 300 ..I have sawed apart B-24's at 800yds out just because them 4 fifty cals on a wing eat up wing roots.

I just wish I could fly more .. school takes a big chunk.. once I graduate, I will be workin full time and doing certs and pre-reqs and then finishing RN followed by BSRN so will be a bit before I can really dive in here ..lovin it tho

-GE

[HardRock]

Sheesh GE if you aren't the eptitamy of jack of all trades!
School?!  The few I know..racing,graphic artist, P51 flyer:)
What happened to the concrete steel rebar job? You still in Arizona?
Thanks for the tips buddy. Will try some ;-)

Thanks too Brooke.

Shaky. So glad to see the Steelers dismantle the Colts. I hate them.

We oughta hook up in some duels to Shake things down ;-)
As a matter of fact that 3 base duel spot would be ideal for old air warriors to get a little furball fun in. Like once a week or every other week would be cool. What says guys?


Todd, Do you have a stick setting that would be good to cut down the wobble? I suppose it depends on stick..I have the CH. Right now its all set to default.

Anyone know what climbs better..A5 or A8?
Always liked the A5 in AW.


Hya Grits ;-)

[Brooke]

HR, I have a CH Products Flightstick, all with default settings, and it's fine for me.  I'm wondering if the wobble you are talking about might be the inertia effects in the flight model.

In Air Warrior, there were no complicated effects dependent on angle of attack, so when you pulled back a little (but quickly) on the stick, the nose generally would move up a little quickly, in a straight line, and stay there.  In Aces High, there are all sorts of more-complicated, more-realistic flight dynamics modelled so that, when you pull back a little but quickly, you should notice the nose do more than move up quickly in a straight line and stay put.  It depends on the plane, but many will have the sight move up quickly but oscillate slightly, briefly up and down and sometimes even side to side a little.

The magnitude and duration of the osciallation generally aren't large  -- maybe a second or so and amplitude of half a gunsight or less.  It depends on the plane, too.  However, it is enough to need getting used to compared to Air Warrior, and it contributes to the aspect that, in transitioning from Air Warrior to Aces High, gunnery takes the longest in which to become proficient.

[DoKGonZo]

The "wobble" could be the same one that HT put into WB ... or was in there as a result of the physics model. Not sure which, but there's always been a "floaty" kind of effect that you just have to get used to.

The A5 handles better than the A8 - which is like saying a Winebago handles better than a dump truck. Neither is the zippy-quick plane you expect right now. Try the La-5 - guns aren't as good as the 190 but below 8K it's an animal. If only a Fw will do, stick with the Dora - at least you have the speed to break away when you run out of manouever options - it's one of the best climbers in the game too.

My hobby these days is rocket vultching ... since I'm usually in a P51D this is the best way to vultch and not come away with just assists. Though the 190F8 also excels in this mode. I'm also trying to fly without tracers now - so I pulled in all my convergence to around 325 or so.

Base capture is fun if you're working with a crew of folks committed to it for a while. Otherwise you find yourself late to the party or hung out to dry.

If the Pats hadn't totally choked against Denver they could have taken down the Steelers. Note I said "could have." They sure as sheep would have managed the game better than Holmgren did. I expected the Colts to blow it - I didn't expect Denver to.

[HardRock]

read a little on this link posted later.
http://members.shaw.ca/soda_p/models.htm

Maybe the A5 might fit me. Me being more an E fitr than pure BnZ.
A little more nimble to loop should the opponent not be so hot;-)

Yeah Dok..its that warbirds wobble feel that bugs me.

Tough to say whether NE could have beat Pitts the way they were playin but it would have been at foxboro which would have helped. I think we could have beat them if we play mistake free. But isn't that always the way it is. Alas 5 turnovers was too much to overcome. Seems Brady and company were pressing a little to hard in an effort to get back to the SB.

The colts got smeared. Thats a good thing;-)

[Grits]

When I fly a 190 its either the A-5 or the D-9, only rarely the A-8 and never the F-8. The A-5 can actually turn decently, and the D-9 is fast, but other than firepower the A-8 has few redeeming qualities IMO and the F-8 has none. Well...I suppose the F-8 is a decent rocket vulcher.

Actually, if you want to E knife fight some of the best are the Ki-84, the P-38J/L and the 109K-4. The Ki-84 (my current favorite ride) OWNS the verticle, it can do a climing spiral at the top of a rope that only some of the perked planes can hope to follow. In addition the Ki-84 is a great TnB plane, once it gets slow and gets its flaps out, can out turn everything but Zekes and Hurricanes. The only drawbacks of the Ki-84 are poor high speed diving ability and average firepower/ammo load.

[DoKGonZo]

The Pats always have a game or two each season where they just suck - bunches of turnovers, bad tackling, weird play calling. Sadly, this year one of these games came in the playoffs. And also sadly, the officiating throughout the playoffs was even worse - bad calls in the first quarter in many games which altered the flow of the game and ultimately were the deciding factor. Not just Pats games - a LOT of games - and many sportswriters agree.

But the Pats will be in a foul humor next year - handing the game to Denver and then the Steelers fans booing Brady at the SB coin toss will set the tone for the season. New coordinators, probably some interesting new players, and Rodney Harrison back and rested.

I don't know how Manning and the Colts bounce back from this year. They dominated the league all season, they had a defense, they had a running game, it wasn't all Peyton like the last couple years, and they didn't even have to face the Patriots. And they still choked. They'll probably chalk it up to the tragedy that hit the Dungy family - but Belichick's Dad died during the season too, and he was much more involved with the team than Dungy's son - and it didn't affect the Pats season.

The more interesting football question is which NFC team won't suck next year. I saw some article that said a Patriots-Cowboys SB next year is likely - I'm sure everyone in the Boston area would love to stomp The Tuna in a SB.


But anyway ... the 190F8 feels somewhat more stable than the rest of the A series. Maybe its just cuz its slower with the racks. Who knows? But when you see someone rolling a flight of 17's for AckStar duty at a CAP'd field, having all them rockets sure do make you smile. The cannons are good for normal vultching or taking down towns. And it's quick enough to get outa Dodge if the situation starts to collapse. I only use it when there's good odds.

The Ki-84 is a great ride, but the high speed handling is something you really need to watch and probably the biggest reason you don't see the plane much in the MA. I prefer it for base defense over the N1K simply because it is a generally more capable plane and people are more interested in killing the N1K's for the obvious reasons.

If you like the 109K then you owe it to yourself to try the Yak-9U. The ammo load is a little worse than the 109 with the 20mm so you need to be a good shot. But man - for a plane with no WEP that little crate can haul. It pretty much works angles and the vertical well, accelerates and climbs great, and is more stable than either the 190 or 109. A lot of people won't worry about the Yak behind them because "it has no WEP, so I'm safe" but you only need a little dive to grab a pile of speed and catch people.

[Juntts]

Hello all,

I have my roots in Air Warrior as well. Played the original Air Warrior off-line before moving to AWIII on Gamestorm somewhere in late '98 (?). Flew there for 2-3 years before moving to WarBirds in 2001, retired from online dutiesin early 2002 at the tender age of 21. Now after 4 years break from flight sims I made a comeback here on AHII, I also tried WWII Online and WB2005 but it looks like most of the people are here so I think I will settle down in Aces High. Got my arse kicked kicked during the first 2 nights but im getting my gunnery and flight skills back slowly Also im starting to recall what Situational Awareness stands for

It's great to see legendary names such as Fencer, BlueBaron etc. (although I never got to knew them) )making a comeback.

CPID's I used:

AW

+Wolf and variations such as:
-Wolf

WB:

-stein

AHII:

Juntts

[Oldman731]

Started AW in October 1996, when it was first available on AOL for those of us running Win 3.11 (or 3.12?  one of those pre-95 versions).  Moved from New Pilots Arena straight into FR - hey, who wouldn't?  Figured that I'd almost certainly be the oldest person playing (visions of spotty-faced teens as the target audience), so I put "Oldman" into the box for CPID, not having read that it would only take the first five letters.  Consequently I spent the next four years as "Oldma."

FR Fightertown was my favorite arena; AW was never the same after they eliminated it.  Spent most of the rest of AW's life wandering around FR AvA, hoping Yoj or someone else would stop in.  Came here in December, 2000, after the December 7 Final Memorial Flight in FR.

- oldman

[Otter]

Originally posted by Brooke
Yikes!  Otter, hope you are doing well after all that.  Best wishes!

I'm doing pretty good. Lot's of calls from ah/aw dudes while I was in the hospital. It's why I cherish this community.

[MarAr]

So many old names and some I probably have forgotten. It has been a long time since the old Air Warrior Days. Some of you may remember me and others may not. I used the Cpid of “MarAr” since the dawn of “AOL-AW.” I have flown with many squadrons in AW and would have to say my favorite was the 38 Specials. The squadron was filled with many talented pilots. Like most pilots in the beginning I started out with a spit9 and man was it a forgiving plane. Times changed and I moved on to the 109’s which I had a blast in. Though my true calling was found in the P38. It was not a forgiving plane, though if flown right was a killer. I won’t forget the many dogfights and countless furballs that I had enjoyed flying it. I lost touch with a lot of friends and people after the AW days and still miss those times today. It is just a shame that the game could not be saved.

and my best wishes to all.

MarAr

[PK1Mw]

Marar u old fart! Shoot me an email, got a lot of catchin up to do. pk1mw@yahoo.com