More Terrorism in Russia

[Boroda]

Originally posted by straffo
Isn't this war the continuation of what Tolstoi described ?

Well, the Chechen problem was solved in mid-XIX century, after Imam Shamil' was captured. The war started because Georgia joined Russian Empire and Chechens (and some other nations, but not so outrageously) started to rob caravans on the roads across Caucasus to Georgia. Before that the border was secured by Cossacks, who still live there and still fight this "rebels".

During WWII Chechens openly supported Hitler, and turned back to their favourite occupations: robbery and murders. On Feb., 23, 1944, all Chechens were sent to Kazakhstan. Kaakhs were not very happy about it. In 1958 they started to return, and attempted to start again, but after several murders people came out to the streets and stormed local Party headquaters, so Chechens were forced to order again.

And then came 1991, when they started to do what they want again, that resulted in half-million refugees and unknown number of people killed, kidnapped, held for ransom or turned into slaves.

Did you know that slavery is quite common in Chechnya? Almost every week federal forces release people who were kidnapped (some as long ago as mid-80s) and held in the holes turned into slaves in prehistoric meaning of this word...

[Gh0stFT]

Sad news

dont forgett one, who creates such Terrorists?
I came to the conclusion, where politics fail, terrorists grow.

[Boroda]

Originally posted by Dowding
The Russians battered Grozny with artillery a few years ago. There were plenty of civilians there.  

Dowding, a "civilian" with an automat and RPG is called an armed terrorist.

Russian army gave several weeks for unarmed people to leave the city. Grozniy was turned into a highly-fortified position. If you know other ways to capture such fortresses then artillery preparation and aerial bombings - please enlighten me.

[lasersailor184]

Who says only Nazis are allowed to commit genocide?  Communists had their fair share too.

Plus Life is not a right, it is a priviledge.  You must earn it and bad actions will take it away.  Painfully if need be.

[Hawklore]

It's one thing to attack adults, and the military with suicide bombs, and invade theaters packed with adults.

But it's one whole entire differnt thing to take children hostage.

I pray for the children in Russian who have been taken hostage, and I pray the Russia does what is best.

Negotiate to get the children out, get them out, then attack the militia men as they leave, and slaughter them.

I'm pissed, the Chechian terroists (sp?) have gone too far.

And what does Bush do in response to this? Tightens security on flights from Russia. He won't intervene till the US Embassy is attacked in Russia. And maybe not even then...

[BlueJ1]

I agree with you completly. But does Russia want our help ? I imagine we would be more then willing if they asked for it. But I imagine old feelings still exist and neither nation wishes to show they need help until its too late.

[Coolridr]

Come on..Russia would not allow us to help unless we were asked by them. They have always took care of this internally. They feel it's their problem. You can't fault Bush for that.

[Hawklore]

Umm, we do have a war against terrosim and this is that...

But, Russia and the US are two stuborn nations...

Least we could do is send food and water over...

[Curval]

Why does Bush need to "intervene"?

He just needs to let Russia get on with it and stop making diplomatic denounciations of Russian efforts to do so as previous administrations have done.

The Russians have been saying for years that these guys need to be wiped out.  They finally have world (US) opinion on their side and will probably do precisely that.  They will certainly try.

[Hawklore]

Atleast come out and say that you support Russias Efforts and are willing to assist of they so require it..

[Coolridr]

Russia isn't someplace that can't handle this on their own...Remember they were and in some ways still are  the only power that could match us.

[BlueJ1]

Id like to think the Russian and U.S. tensions will soon be  over. Imagine the impact Russia would have on the war on terrorism. Russia, the U.S., and England all sided to put a stop to all these senseless killings.

     I was wondering if Russia has taken part in any recent conflicts allied with major U.N. nations ?

[LUPO]

Inappropriate

[Gunslinger]

I posted this in the other thread that Skuzzy himself helped Hijack.

This is BAD. If this works well we can expect it in the states as well. Think how much of a soft target a school is yet how effective it would be.

[Coolridr]

Originally posted by Gunslinger
I posted this in the other thread that Skuzzy himself helped Hijack.

This is BAD. If this works well we can expect it in the states as well. Think how much of a soft target a school is yet how effective it would be.

You're right..anyone can walk on a campus and walk right into any building.