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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #90 on: September 03, 2004, 06:44:28 AM »
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Hopefully Grun, most of them will stop when they realize we will not be intimidated by their actions.


You mean like the USA didnt pay much attention to terror in the late 1990s economic boom?  Nobody I know was worried about Osama Bin Laden when many of us were easily earning hundreds of dollars a day on the stock market...

Yet we know what happend, and we know what he was planning just at that time we werent "intimidated"...

Tell me, by your idea of just "learn to live with them" and show them we are not "intimidated" were we wrong to respond to 911 in the way we did by invading afghanistan, improving our intelligence info sharing and upping airline security?

Should we have just shrugged of 911, done nothing, changed nothing and simply moved on?

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« Reply #91 on: September 03, 2004, 07:01:04 AM »
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Terrorism only works if you let it work.


Palestinians doesn't seem to agree with that

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« Reply #92 on: September 03, 2004, 07:08:13 AM »
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Afghanistan was different. They openly supported the terrorists; basically that was an act of war.

Terrorism only works if you let it work. 9/11 was a great success for the terrorists.


Oh I see.  So we should have attacked the Taliban Govenernment because they were supporting terror but left the Al Qaeda alone because they were the actual terrorists..

And as for anything else we should have done nothing.  No security changes, no new intelligence efforts, nothing.  Because doing that means theterrorits win..

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« Reply #93 on: September 03, 2004, 07:28:29 AM »
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and to provoke a response.


Well I'm not sure if I am misunderstaiong you..

How can we get the terrorists without responding...  How do we catch them without acting? Without investigating.How do we stop upcoming attacks without spying and interrogating?

Or are you aginst acting to stop upcoming attcaks?
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« Reply #94 on: September 03, 2004, 07:32:41 AM »
I think your whole theory is nonsense.

We ignored them plenty in the 1990s and look where that got us..

Whats your answer to that simple fact..

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« Reply #95 on: September 03, 2004, 09:17:49 AM »
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Hopefully most of them, but there will always be nutcases out there and even a police state cannot protect you from all of them. Live your life, don't worry about terrorism ... that's what they want, and the media is helping them a lot. Anyways, it's a minor risk not worth worrying about.

I don't want my government to protect me from terroristas, I want my government to hunt them down like rabid dogs and kill them in any way they deem appropriate.

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« Reply #96 on: September 03, 2004, 09:22:56 AM »
Now that we got the emotions out of the way GS, please lets get back to the topic. :).

We ignored them plenty in the 1990s and look where that got us..

Whats your answer to that simple fact?

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« Reply #97 on: September 03, 2004, 09:28:12 AM »
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We ignored them plenty in the 1990s and look where that got us..

Whats your answer to that simple fact?


How about it's not a fact. It's your opinion.
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« Reply #98 on: September 03, 2004, 09:29:05 AM »
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Now that we got the emotions out of the way GS, please lets get back to the topic. :).

We ignored them plenty in the 1990s and look where that got us..

Whats your answer to that simple fact?


you didn't ignored them strong enought ?


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« Reply #99 on: September 03, 2004, 09:31:28 AM »
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How about it's not a fact. It's your opinion.


Oh really. So according to GS theory and your little assesment just now it was Clinton's cruise missle lobs at Bin Laden that actually caused 911 because they saw we wouldnt ignore terrorism.. OK..

Still, I dont remember anyone baing "intimidated" by terror in the late 1990's we were all enjoying the bubble economy.   So my critique of GS thory holds..
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« Reply #100 on: September 03, 2004, 09:32:57 AM »
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you didn't ignored them strong enought ?



No, not like France. ;)  Looks like your good relations with them is gonna save those two journalists... At least thats good.

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« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2004, 09:41:50 AM »
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Oh really. So according to GS theory and your little assesment just now it was Clinton's cruise missle lobs at Bin Laden that actually caused 911 because they saw we wouldnt ignore terrorism.. OK..

Still, I dont remember anyone baing "intimidated" by terror in the late 1990's we were all enjoying the bubble economy.   So my critique of GS thory holds..


It really is entertaining to watch you argue both sides. Please continue.
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« Reply #102 on: September 03, 2004, 09:46:20 AM »
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It really is entertaining to watch you argue both sides. Please continue.


And its really interesting that you see a few random crusise missles to be a serious campaign to get bin laden..

Or lets just be honest were you intimidated by terror in the late 1990s?

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« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2004, 09:52:20 AM »
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Or lets just be honest were you intimidated by terror in the late 1990s?


I work in the defense industry. Terror has never stopped being a concern.
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« Reply #104 on: September 03, 2004, 09:53:37 AM »
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I work in the defense industry. Terror has never stopped being a concern.


Live your life, hope they will not attack and whatever you do, dont cower behind active defense!! ;)