ok while im griping 17s as acks suc!!

[-towd_]

tonight bishops held 22 by using 17s (up to 8)parked on the ground as acks. not one structure was standing (are bases gonna be able to be closed?).

i just ask cause i have flashbacks from warbirds ack stars. hehe

[214CaveJ]

yeah, talk about lame.  hopefully we'll be able to kill birds sitting on the ground with bombs before long.  I had 6 500lb eggs I could have dropped on thier heads =)

[Westy]

 Rockets volleys from several aircraft should be able to take em out.  
 Unless damage from rockets isn't modelled on aircraft.

--Westy

[-towd_]

true i have faith that the htc boys will come up with a solution to the ackstar factor hehe

[weazel]

ACKSTARS SUCK!-and so do the CHEATERS who stoop to this level. Yeah go ahead and flame me and quote your historical precedent for gaming the game. The bottom line is this isn`t real life and your ruining other players enjoyment of this sim when you CHEAT like this. I recommend you go play Quake with the rest of your ilk if this brings you enjoyment.

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[-kier-]

Trouble with killing them on the runway is they regenerate right there. Too bad...  

[Gadfly]

One day, the kingdom was invaded with mice.
The king ordered in cats to get rid of the mice.
The cats became a plague, and dogs were imported.

Etc, per the fairy tale.

Otto is the mouse.

[Fishu]

....just wait till they get vehicles done

Though, there could be way to stop flight operations from the field, like that hangar stuff which is not decided yet..

Perhaps make it so that theres 4 hangars, then 3/4 hangars large bombers are disabled, with 2/4 hangars multi engine planes will be disabled, with 1/4 hangars fighters only, and when all hangars down, field would be generally closed.

[6gun]

IF you could code where the buffs gunners would not work until the plane first went to 2k or so, but once there would stay on as long as it was in flight, no matter the altitude, the problem would be solved.

IF  

6gun

[Kats]

Hello, my name is kats and I'm an ack star.

Mind you I wasn't sitting otr but I have been flying low level guns-a-wailing.

TBH, I usually don't fly buffs but I am so impressed with the new gunnery system I just had to check it out. I was staying low so guys would attack me so I would get a chance to shoot my guns.

I'm not trying to ruin the game for anyone, but I figured it's a beta test and I wanted to see how effective they are.

[shdo]

I can't belive this thread though I guess I should.

Lets see AckStars were defined as Otto gunners being used offensivly at any altitude. Yep even to 25,000 feet the cry rings out.

OTOH there is NO Otto in AH.  What we have here are BloodDragons.  

BloodDragons have human gunners ONLY.  It's Mano-v-Mano.  If you can't kill another person you've no one to blame but yourself.

I can see it now.  At 25,000 feet in AH the cry rings out.

"Buff's at 25k, 8 of em"
"cc in"
"tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!""tally ho!"

(yep lots of fighters.)

"Hey! that dweeb shot at me when I was making a pass on him!  That AckStar"
"Yea those Buffs are AckStars!"
"Dweebs!!!!!!"


the battle continues yet again.

shdo

[-floo-]

Bishopes weren't the only side..I saw it everywhere  

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-floo- fangs out
333rd Red Dawgs
JG 5 Eismeer

[scout]

What is the problem ?

As long as the gunners are human I can't see what the problem is ?

Is the gunning system on B17's to effective, meaning more effective than in real life ?
If so, then ask HT to adjust it.

Turnin it off below 2K is synthetic, a complete immersion turn off.

I disklike the 'no gunners on ground' in WB to, even if they are auto.
If it could work in real life it should work in the simulation to.

Ok, a way to prevent instant respawning by destroying assets should be implemented.

[chester]

WE dont want RULES! Who needs RULES!We want AH to be like all the rest! NO rules!...It will be ok with out rules,we can play nice.......How about you get killed,you fly from a default air strip...oops that would be a rule ,sorry.

[aircat]

sheesh! people want to talk imersion, historical ect. ok fine. let put this into a what if term scenario. what if you was in WWII as a buff pilot/gunner. you had 3 or 4 bombers over head dropping bombs on you and a small horde of fighter craft circling over head. are you going to crawl out of the bomb shelter to man your plane? its prolly already been nailed by a 500lbs bomb and/or countless cannon/MG ammo.
there is a fix however... but would turn off many people. one MAKE THOSE RUNWAY GEEKS BOMBABLE! 2 require a replane time for those killed that have yet to take off. vultching was apart of WWII for reasons of taking out enemy aircraft before they was a threat. but I have yet to hear of a bomber crew loading up thier buffs to play ack on the field in middle of an air raid. they made the ack take time to come up for a reason! someone even had the gall to to complain that he was "vultched" on the run way in question 3 times and didnt have a chance to get airborne. hmmmm TAKE OFF FROM ANOTHER FIELD!
I say make runway deaths take ATLEAST 5 minutes to replane that field... instantly from another field if they wish.