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Offline FBBone

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« Reply #150 on: September 06, 2004, 05:35:13 PM »
There seems to be an excessive ammount of crying about this plane.  The funny thing is, I see Rooks, Bish, and Knights all flying it.  So who are those that whine so vocaly?  IMHO, they are the guys that have been around the longest, have found a high ENY plane that they or their squad sticks to, and they have become very proficient with.  If they're such uberpilots,  why all the ruckus?  Is it because they can't stand the thought of a nOOb gettin the best of 'em?  C'mon, boys, check your egos.  

I flew in AW and then left for a LONG time.  I started in AH about 3 months before AH2.  I dont have the experience that alot of the top 500 fighter pilots have, I'm lucky (if and) when my fighter score is in triple digits!  So when my base is gettin cap'd, thats the plane I'll likely take.  Am I a Dweeb?  If you think so, fine, I really couldn't care less.  

If you want to limit this plane, then which is next?  Pony, Dora, Spit IV?  There has to be one "best" un-perked plane. Just deal with it, it's only a game after all!

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« Reply #151 on: September 07, 2004, 01:45:37 AM »
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There seems to be an excessive ammount of crying about this plane.  The funny thing is, I see Rooks, Bish, and Knights all flying it.  So who are those that whine so vocaly?  IMHO, they are the guys that have been around the longest, have found a high ENY plane that they or their squad sticks to, and they have become very proficient with.  If they're such uberpilots,  why all the ruckus?  Is it because they can't stand the thought of a nOOb gettin the best of 'em?  C'mon, boys, check your egos.  

I flew in AW and then left for a LONG time.  I started in AH about 3 months before AH2.  I dont have the experience that alot of the top 500 fighter pilots have, I'm lucky (if and) when my fighter score is in triple digits!  So when my base is gettin cap'd, thats the plane I'll likely take.  Am I a Dweeb?  If you think so, fine, I really couldn't care less.  

If you want to limit this plane, then which is next?  Pony, Dora, Spit IV?  There has to be one "best" un-perked plane. Just deal with it, it's only a game after all!


I checked his stats. I'll give everyone 3 guesses which plane FBBone flies the VAST majority of the time, but I'm thinking ya'll will only need one guess... ;)

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« Reply #152 on: September 07, 2004, 12:17:50 PM »
My guess is that it the very plane he said in his own post that he takes: the LA-7.

Can I have my cookie now for reading for comprehension? :)

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« Reply #153 on: September 07, 2004, 12:23:02 PM »
its always marsha marsha marsha!!

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« Reply #154 on: September 07, 2004, 03:59:57 PM »
I don't see what perking the plane will do.  So far I have 32 kills in it and 3 deaths to trees, vaulch, and friendly ack, I think.  I am sure anyone can afford that.  Fly it a little timid and all you need is enough perks for one.  Perking it could make things worse.  If you think LA7s run now, imagin how fast they would run if there was a price to pay for every death.
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« Reply #155 on: September 07, 2004, 05:28:27 PM »
The la7 itself isn't the problem.  The problem is the weenie behind the stick.  The la7 just allows him to be fully in his element of lameness... all besides shane and a couple others who truly rock in the bird.

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« Reply #156 on: September 07, 2004, 05:53:22 PM »
Come on ...

Bottom line is those who hate the La-7 and wish it to be perked are those who want to be able to BnZ with impunity in their late war monsters and can't, when an La-7 is in the area.

There has to be nothing worse for those who think they are the "fly's eyes" when it come to BnZing and then get bounced and run down by a newb in an La-7.

True .. if guys like Stang, Urchin, etc were to fly the La-7 constantly, they would amass huge amounts of kills (like Stang is proving now), but they are the exception to the rule.

Why don't these guys typically fly the La-7 ? ... cause it not a challenge. Those who do fly the La-7 are probably using it as a crutch, but only for a short or intermediate length of time. They will eventually move on, and then a new group of newbs that need the crutch will jump into the cockpit, but these guys are hardly the match that you would encounter with the likes of Stang, Urchin, Shane ... etc.

I still fart in the face of the La-7 and if I do die to its guns ... oh well ... it would be no more different than any of the other planes that have shot me down.

Oh .. and Stang is only re-affirming what Shane has been showing us for a long time.
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« Reply #157 on: September 07, 2004, 05:59:45 PM »
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Bottom line is those who hate the La-7 and wish it to be perked are those who want to be able to BnZ with impunity in their late war monsters and can't, when an La-7 is in the area.

The Mossie is a late war monster?:confused:


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« Reply #158 on: September 07, 2004, 06:33:34 PM »
your right slap, thats why i dont bnz when la7 is in area, i tnb with it till it is ded.  :D
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« Reply #159 on: September 07, 2004, 06:45:22 PM »
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your right slap, thats why i dont bnz when la7 is in area, i tnb with it till it is ded.  :D
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I actually take the opposite tack. I kill the La7's first while I have superior E. I am very good at maintaining an energy advantage, so this is no problem even against the La7 which can pull E out of its ass. The primary advantage of the La7 in the E-Fighting realm is speed, acceleration and climbrate, if you can maintain an E advantage, you can remain both faster and higher than the La7 plenty long enough to kill it if you are skilled at high deflection shooting. Once the La7(s) is/are dead it's time to really have some fun. ;)

This reminds me of one of the first principles I learned when I was a newbie in AWFR trying out different planes. It's really the Mantra for the "Survivalist' and holds true to this day...

-If you are in an Energy fighter, kill everything faster than you first, while your E state is high.

-If you are in angles fighter kill anything that can out-turn you first, because the less E you have the more pronounced their advantage.



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« Reply #160 on: September 07, 2004, 06:50:41 PM »
Zazen,

I didn't know that Ostwinds ever had superior energy to the La-7.  Or are you refering to your small percentage of kills in the Tiffie?
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« Reply #161 on: September 07, 2004, 06:53:53 PM »
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Zazen,

I didn't know that Ostwinds ever had superior energy to the La-7.  Or are you refering to your small percentage of kills in the Tiffie?


Heh, wait until we are a little deeper into the camp. I typically avoid flying fighters the first week or so of a new camp because everyone is entirely too timid, even for me, and that's saying alot. ;) Once people die a bunch they typically 'loosen' up and stop running so much. This is also part of the reason I get into my Ostwind initially, I help hasten the speed at which my adversaries get a 'bunch' of deaths. At which point I spend the remainder of my camp in fighters primarily.

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« Reply #162 on: September 08, 2004, 12:53:56 AM »
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I checked his stats. I'll give everyone 3 guesses which plane FBBone flies the VAST majority of the time, but I'm thinking ya'll will only need one guess... ;)

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Yeah Zazen, I freely admitted to flying LA7s.  Theres no guess work here.  The fact that you had to check my stats probably means youre one of the cry babies being so vocal, or you have a very low level of reading comprehension.

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« Reply #163 on: September 08, 2004, 12:56:16 AM »
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Yeah Zazen, I freely admitted to flying LA7s.  Theres no guess work here.  The fact that you had to check my stats probably means youre one of the cry babies being so vocal, or you have a very low level of reading comprehension.


Yea, it was reading comprehension, I spent almost the entire day digging up old HiTech posts. Everything was a blur. Fly whatcha like. I think my life-time K/D vs. La7s is like 30 to 1, no skin off my back. ;)

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« Reply #164 on: September 08, 2004, 01:34:14 AM »
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Yea, it was reading comprehension, I spent almost the entire day digging up old HiTech posts. Everything was a blur. Fly whatcha like. I think my life-time K/D vs. La7s is like 30 to 1, no skin off my back. ;)

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O.K.  I'll buy that, hehe.  

Look, my point is, I'm still new.  I dont get the chance to "fly" as much as the top guys do.  (under 3 hrs on as opposed to 27+ for you as of this post).  If the top guys all have K/D ratios like yours, then I dont understand the complaint.  I've been killed plenty in LA7s.

The fighter was designed to improve the chances of young, green Russian pilots (or at least thats what I've been told, correct me if thats wrong) and it serves the same role here. :)

Oh, you failed to mention that I like to fly the SpitV and Yak also:aok
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