Me-262 locked?

[2shad4u]

oh im sorry i didnt know it was that disablement......i agree 262 should be available even when ENY disablements since you will most likely be paying a high price for one

[Arlo]

Yeah ... and F4U-4s can get pretty expensive too, at times .... they should not have them on the ENY lockdown list ... oh ... oh ... and Lalas can get up there too ..... they shouldn't be on the ENY disablement list either ..... .oh ..... and .... and .....

Nice try guys.

(Hehe .... waiting for the inevitable "I pay 15 bucks a month to fly 262s" post)

[Zazen13]

If your're unlocking the 262, you need to unlock all the perk planes. I want my Tempest unlocked. The 163 was unlocked because it is already highly restricted and really has only one specific use (HQ defense). Either unlock all the rest of the perk planes and let us 'buy' them anytime, or none at all (except 163).

Zazen

[dragoon]

Originally posted by Jackal1
I don`t understand what you are meaning by "locked". The 262 is not locked out of the game. If you have the perks, you can fly it unless the ENY balance is in effect.
  If you are meaning to make it available during ENY restrictions, that would be doing the exact opposite of what it was put in place for.

  If I had my way,(which aint gonna happen BTW), the 262 would be removed from the game.

he means ENY locked. and making it available during eny would do absolutly nothing to the game. like someone else said in this post " seeing a 262 is rare."

i wanted to fly one so bad tonight, couldnt do it cause we had about 30 more players then the bish as did the nits.

[dragoon]

Originally posted by Arlo
Yeah ... and F4U-4s can get pretty expensive too, at times .... they should not have them on the ENY lockdown list ... oh ... oh ... and Lalas can get up there too ..... they shouldn't be on the ENY disablement list either ..... .oh ..... and .... and .....

Nice try guys.

(Hehe .... waiting for the inevitable "I pay 15 bucks a month to fly 262s" post)

i pay my 15 bucks a month to fly the 262

[CavemanJ]

I think all the perk planes should be exempt from this mickey mouse eny/balance lock down.  The cost on the perk rides goes up as numbers in your country go up, so what's the big deal?

[Arlo]

Originally posted by dragoon

i wanted to fly one so bad tonight, couldnt do it cause we had about 30 more players then the bish as did the nits.

Not bad enough ... apparently.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by CavemanJ
I think all the perk planes should be exempt from this mickey mouse eny/balance lock down.  The cost on the perk rides goes up as numbers in your country go up, so what's the big deal?

You don't actually understand the ENY lockdown thing at all, do you? ENY lockdown helps achieve #s balance better than the perk multiplier ever did. The perk multiplier could probably be disabled altogether.

[TBolt A-10]

Originally posted by Arlo
Not bad enough ... apparently.

   I still strongly dislike any implication that one should "switch sides" just to fly a particular plane & "balance out the numbers."  Changing countries isn't an option for some of us.  HT ignored that fact when he installed the new system.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by TBolt A-10
   I still strongly dislike any implication that one should "switch sides" just to fly a particular plane & "balance out the numbers."  Changing countries isn't an option for some of us.  HT ignored that fact when he installed the new system.

It's an option for everyone ... whether you want to or not is up to you as an individual and your squad as a group. You ignore the fact that it is indeed an option.

[TBolt A-10]

Originally posted by Arlo
It's an option for everyone ... whether you want to or not is up to you as an individual and your squad as a group. You ignore the fact that it is indeed an option.

No...my CO locked us out of the map room.    I couldn't switch sides even if I wanted to.  

Anywhoooo, this thread is about unlocking the perked rides, if not at least the very expensive 262.

[Arlo]

It's about the ENY lockdown system and you know it ... lol. The faster, more powerful exotic rides cost more than the less fast, less powerful exotic rides. You know the reason for that, surely. And the reason is no excuse to make the most expensive of the fast, powerful, exotic rides immune from the ENY system. Unless, of course, you're also advocating limiting them to upping from the Komet base. Even then, it'll just snowball into the "anti-ENY lockdown" faction asking for all perked planes to be available from the Komet base during hordetime.

Look at it this way .... if your side is the horde side .... then you'll never have to pay too much for the 262!

[TBolt A-10]

Originally posted by Arlo
It's about the ENY lockdown system and you know it ... lol. The faster, more powerful exotic rides cost more than the less fast, less powerful exotic rides. You know the reason for that, surely. And the reason is no excuse to make the most expensive of the fast, powerful, exotic rides immune from the ENY system. Unless, of course, you're also advocating limiting them to upping from the Komet base. Even then, it'll just snowball into the "anti-ENY lockdown" faction asking for all perked planes to be available from the Komet base during hordetime.

Look at it this way .... if your side is the horde side .... then you'll never have to pay too much for the 262!

No, seriously...I didn't start the thread to argue about the ENY lockdowns....except for how it has affected the 262.  I honestly feel that, since the 262 costs so many perks anyway, that it should be available irregardless of MA numbers.

You and others continue to drag the issue down the slippery slope (and, there are some interesting points to consider when looking at their ideas), but - once again - I simply believe the 262 should go unrestricted.  If my whiney squadmate wants to pay 500 perks to fly the farkin' thing,   let him.  
 

Good night, Arlo.    I need to catch some ZzzZZZz's.  

[Simaril]

Originally posted by TBolt A-10
No, seriously...I didn't start the thread to argue about the ENY lockdowns....except for how it has affected the 262.  I honestly feel that, since the 262 costs so many perks anyway, that it should be available irregardless of MA numbers.

You and others continue to drag the issue down the slippery slope (and, there are some interesting points to consider when looking at their ideas), but - once again - I simply believe the 262 should go unrestricted.  If my whiney squadmate wants to pay 500 perks to fly the farkin' thing,   let him.  
 
 

Again, you're looking at it as a "fair play" issue -- and it's not. The ENY restriction is a penalty, a punishment to induce movement from those who will not otherwise move. HT went this route because the side numbers imbalance hurt the gameplay enough that subscribers were leaving, and still the high side wouldnt "give in." So, you are literally grounded because you won't switch sides.

And like any penalty, its supposed to hurt. In fact, the more it hurts, the more effective the policing authority thinks the penalty is.

So, keep up the complaining --  it just tells HT that the ENY does it's job. In fact, by complaining without switching you're sending the message that the penalty isnt quite strong enough.......

[CavemanJ]

Originally posted by Simaril
Again, you're looking at it as a "fair play" issue -- and it's not. The ENY restriction is a penalty, a punishment to induce movement from those who will not otherwise move. HT went this route because the side numbers imbalance hurt the gameplay enough that subscribers were leaving, and still the high side wouldnt "give in." So, you are literally grounded because you won't switch sides.

And like any penalty, its supposed to hurt. In fact, the more it hurts, the more effective the policing authority thinks the penalty is.

So, keep up the complaining --  it just tells HT that the ENY does it's job. In fact, by complaining without switching you're sending the message that the penalty isnt quite strong enough.......

Ya know.. for years Rooks faced a gangbang.  The bishknit consortium denied it and HTC ignored it.  Looking at all 3 country's numbers they didn't seem that far out of whack.  I know people who quit because of it and the lack of address to the problem.  Hell for some tours the rook total kills/deaths were more than the bish kills/deaths + knit kills/deaths.  The sliding perk scale alleviated it a little bit.

Now the Rook join ops has been going on for awhile, and when it cranks up (once a week last I heard) the rooks give back what we got for a few years, and the bishknit consortium is all in tears.  And this imbalance is apparent in the country numbers because people come out of the woodwork to fly in an organized enviroment.  This include vast defections from the bishknit to the rook on RJO nights.

Now as far as this eny lockdown goes... I'll log off if I can't fly my bird.  I'm not gonna switch sides and shoot at people I normally fly with.  And don't say there's the 3rd country to shoot at, because if Rooks are in lockdown that's gonna be  where the fights are. [side note: Dale the 12hr limit on country change needs to go now!!]  I'll log off and go play EverQuest or Star Wars Galaxies or IL2 or something.

Anywho.. back on topic, the perks need to be exempted from the lockdown.  They already have thier own balancing act, and if a country is in lockdown then they're payin the highest prices for thier perk rides.