They wanted to start a war

[Bodhi]

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/06/russia.school/index.html

wonder what the fall out in Chechnya is going to be over this.

[Gunslinger]

This is going to get ugly.

"Of course I pitied the children, I swear to Allah. I have children myself. I didn't shoot. I swear to Allah," he said. "I don't want to die. I swear to Allah, I want to live."

yea you should have thaught about that before going into the school.

Other politicians directed their criticism at Putin himself.

"The official claim that international terrorism is behind the Beslan tragedy is a trick designed to divert responsibility away from the Kremlin," liberal Boris Nemtsov told Reuters.

Vladimir Ryzhkov, an independent member of the Duma, wrote in the Nezavisimaya daily: "(Putin) won the contract (as president) to restore order in the country, to ensure security for people. We see today that the contract has been violated."

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sounds like the libralspeak we have here in America.

"If I see a Chechen or an Ingush, I will kill him, or his mother, or his son," Reuters quoted one young man as saying. The man, who declined to be named, was searching for a sister who was missing following the siege.

[Coolridr]

"If I see a Chechen or an Ingush, I will kill him, or his mother, or his son," Reuters quoted one young man as saying. The man, who declined to be named, was searching for a sister who was missing following the siege.

Justified

[Saurdaukar]

Yes really.

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Coolridr
Justified

Just causes more anger and grief.

Revenging to the innocent just because they're of same culture as the evil doers is never going to work.
They'll who survive do the same. a paradoxal situation which becomes hard to end once it begins to roll.

Revenging to an innocent is nothing but a momentual relief.
What would make you feel better about it? you will become an equal murderer.

[GRUNHERZ]

Originally posted by Bodhi
http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/09/06/russia.school/index.html

wonder what the fall out in Chechnya is going to be over this.

Do you believe his statements?  

Alltogether it's very convenient that he directly implicates the main Chechen leaders in the attacks, isnt it?



Keeping in mind that other thread what do you make of ths picture?

[Saurdaukar]

Oh come now.  You girly-men types have empathy dont you?  Imagine it was your 4 year old daughter inside that school...

You gonna go call the UN and recommend a meeting to discuss the spreading of love?

[Fishu]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
Oh come now.  You girly-men types have empathy dont you?  Imagine it was your 4 year old daughter inside that school...

You gonna go call the UN and recommend a meeting to discuss the spreading of love?

What would I win by killing an innocent person from the land where the killers of my 4 year old daugher came from?
Perhaps this innocent person's family would in turn kill my neightbours 6 year old son.

Why not to pursue the ones guilty of it instead.

[Thrawn]

Off topic

[Saurdaukar]

Originally posted by Fishu
What would I win by killing an innocent person from the land where the killers of my 4 year old daugher came from?
Perhaps this innocent person's family would in turn kill my neightbours 6 year old son.

Why not to pursue the ones guilty of it instead.

Good point, but while you were deliberating, an innocent muslim extremeist from Chechnya killed your neighbors 6 year old son anyway.  

PS:  Any thread where Thrawn shows up to champion the virtues of restraint is going to be fun.  

[Otto]

Originally posted by Fishu
Just causes more anger and grief.

Revenging to the innocent just because they're of same culture as the evil doers is never going to work.
They'll who survive do the same. a paradoxal situation which becomes hard to end once it begins to roll.

Revenging to an innocent is nothing but a momentual relief.
What would make you feel better about it? you will become an equal murderer.

Go pick up the pieces of the Childern and put them in boxes first...

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
PS:  Any thread where Thrawn shows up to champion the virtues of restraint is going to be fun.  

Whoa, I wouldn't go that far.

[Gunslinger]

I've actually been thinking about this all day.


some....probably most...russians want revenge.  Some have been infected with liberal EU mentality that these people are freedom fighters and NOW they deserve to be listened to......plus its all putins fault.  (sound familure?)



anyhow, what's wrong with them responding in kind?  Is it worse or better than apeasing these guys?

I can't think of one thing in this world that would justify taking a school hostage and killing a bunch of children.

[Vudak]

Really sad how this all worked out.  Russia really doesn't seem to have much luck with these hostage scenarios...  Not saying we'd do any better.

[Gunslinger]

Originally posted by Vudak
Really sad how this all worked out.  Russia really doesn't seem to have much luck with these hostage scenarios...  Not saying we'd do any better.

well considering this one was an "accident"  IE they didnt want to go in when they did.

I agree with the "take them down" attitude they've shown in the past.  It's hard to imagine a russian society as "pu$$ies but they are being infected by a European attitude of apeasment.

God forbid its my kid(s) in there but I would hope govts. "take them down" each and every time.  Eventually the act of hijacking something will seam futile when somone stops trying to apease them.