Realmode arena - added realism?

[MrSiD]

REALMODE arena.. where each player who THINKS he's good enough can go to try out his 1 (one) life.

On that arena only the very best and the careful will survive and will form the elite class of the sim community.

Just for sakes of fun, this 1 life could be revived after, lets say a week or so.. During which time the downed pilot has had the chance to train more in main, training or h2h arena, ready to try out his luck in the cruel world.


I think it would increase immersion greatly for the part of the community who hate furball+respawn mentality.

.02 Comments welcome.

[Mayhem]

 

Originally posted by MrSiD:
REALMODE arena.. where each player who THINKS he's good enough can go to try out his 1 (one) life.

On that arena only the very best and the careful will survive and will form the elite class of the sim community.

Just for sakes of fun, this 1 life could be revived after, lets say a week or so.. During which time the downed pilot has had the chance to train more in main, training or h2h arena, ready to try out his luck in the cruel world.


I think it would increase immersion greatly for the part of the community who hate furball+respawn mentality.

.02 Comments welcome.

You think some one wants to pay 30 bucks for this just to get vulched there first time or rammed or discoed? I mean I like the idea but to go that far Ide rather fly around in a stang and just run away from every one. not to mention the best I could posibly see is one other person flying on the oposit side of the map at any given time you log in becuase the masses got themself wiped out in the first two days. the next 28 would be 1 to 5 people flying around at peek hours.



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Mayhem 33rd S.G.
"Destination anywhere, so far gone, I'm already there!"

[MrSiD]

Well, Mayhem, this thought crossed my mind also.. The survival of the arena would be dependant of the amount of people who would appreciate real skill over shoot-em-up.

Like I mentioned earlier, losers in the real arena would still be able to continue their play on the normal arenas and try their luck again against the best of the best.

Staying alive in the real arena would become quite a statussymbol within the community also..

If this arena would come packed with historical matchups and full realism, heck, at least I'd like to try my luck out there..

At least there'd be an alternative to the endless furballing and dweebery of the MA that way.. Any dweeb attempts would be punished severely on this arena.. try to HO, lose momentum - and die at the hands of expert.. Learn ACM and become one of the elite...

Maybe youre right, majority of Aces High community wont have the long-term ambition that's needed to try untill becoming successful in such an arena.

But sure it would be a great place to have a certain duel with some of the best in AH  
Right now you end up fighting with novices 80% of the time - and ending up killed in a gangbang. On an arena like this, you could say with pretty much confidence that you were killed by a better pilot  
Great way to get your feet back on the ground too, just when you think youre too hotshot for your pants =)

[Mayhem]

You have a point. But Ide personally rather see more scenerios or mini scenerios with the same restrictions ... you die your out. the other thought is to run a warnight once or twice a week anything goes your dead your out. an open monthly arena like that wouldn't have much apeal. but a warnight or mini scenerio would be awsome specially if there where prizes involved 8)

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Mayhem 33rd S.G.
"Destination anywhere, so far gone, I'm already there!"

[This message has been edited by Mayhem (edited 01-07-2001).]

[Fishu]

I'd guess people would run out of kills in a day..
and rest would be just running and hiding, because no real important objectives would exist

and trust me, people dont hold a candle for survival skills, just for the lenght of your scores  

[loser111]

That is the crappiest idea i have ever heard.   However mayhem i think hit the nail square on the head, more one life scenarios etc, but leave the MA, TA etc in its current state.  I think thats why scenarios are so much fun.  because you only have one life, mission are planned and organized, planes are grouped together. Thats real enough for me.  No lone wolfing it about like in the main arena because you cant afford to.

[lazs]

If I understand it... this is an entirely seperate arena and it is aimed at a specific type of player.   I have no interest in this arena but see no problem with it existing alongside the main.   I can't for the life of me see how it would be any more "realistic" than any other arena except for the fact that you leave when you die.

Without 6 hr flights and planned missions with court marshal for deviating and a comand structure etc.... What is the point?   so far as "status" goes..... LOL!  a good player will be considered a good player in any arena.   The so called "realmode" arena will not attract the "best" pilots so much as the most cautious and most patient.  

For most it would be a huge, crashing, sensless,  boor of an arena.   And.... it would be deserted IMO.   Simply making you stay out for a week wouldn't make it any more "real" than any other arena.   Scenarios do this and have "missions" ta boot.  

Still.... It would be good to get the "patience equals skill" set out of the MA and into their own arena.   I'm kinda tired of chasing em anyway... Doubt if anyone will even miss em much less "respect" em.
lazs

[Hangtime]

What Laz said. Right on target; bro.  

Hang

[iculus]

How is this different than the duelling ladder?  (but a 2 vs. 2 or a team duelling ladder would be cool.)

In each case you fly smart and careful, avoiding acks.  To lose is to be out in the cold.  The search is for a good fight.

I'd expect that in each case you'd want to be the one who comes on top...the last one standing as it may be.

Buffs would be out...who would attack them?  I'm not saying there's anything wrong with them, but it's just too risky for the mediocre buff hunter.

What would be neat, would be to have an arena where you are penalized in a way that matters when you are killed or captured (or captured AND killed  ), perhaps with perk points, etc.

<S>IC

Iculus CO
576(Bomber) Sqn-RAF
 

[MrSiD]

Yeah, I knew this idea would be hammered to death.. one can dream anyway right?

There is one common factor with people who post negative, even slandering comments about new ideas here, though. It's that they never seem to bother to read what the post says - they read the first lines, jump to conclusions and give the 'crappiest idea' comment readily.  

This IS the case, since I posted 1 extra post to correct the blanks of the first reply and still people seemed to miss the point... *sigh*

[TheWobble]

Sid you will quickly find that theses boards are choked with closed minded ignorant people that feel that if an idea is not their own it is toejam.  

[hitech]

For: TheWobble
Close mind uncivlized people , who some of which have played that exact arena config over 10 years ago, and found out it dosn't work.

MrSid.
Not putting you down MrSid your just guilty of one of the most common mistakes when viewing game play.You view it from your perspective only. If you view things from both yours and your oponets you can see that when living is the primary goal. It's never worth fighting from a disadvantage. Therefore everyone one ends up running unless they have an adavanage.
This leads to an incridibly boaring time. 2nd problem is that if you die you can't fly again, The arena gets unpopulated very quickly and there is no one to fight.

Moral of the story is , if the primary goal is to live, you can accomplish it best by never taking off.

HiTech

[TheWobble]

HiTech,
dont understandd yer reply??

Sid, I like your idea, but it would probably have to be a side mounted special type of thing, noone is gonna pay $30 to be chogsmacked 10 foot of the ground and put in a shallow grave   (had to mention the chog)

Its an idea, that while in concept would be at least interesting to try, however in the imperfect real life (or simulated one here) it one of those great ideas that probably will not work.

Kinda like Physics, many things will "work" according to the laws of physics but many cannot because of the limitations of human Laws/Emotions/predetermined concepts(mostly the ladder).

Nice thought though, keep them coming  

[This message has been edited by TheWobble (edited 01-07-2001).]

[1776]

Staying alive can be practiced in the MA.  Just take off from a rear base and don't go below 20K for a kill.  Be prepared to do a lot of just flyn around though

[Dos Equis]

In Warbirds, Pyro had a Realism Arena. No icons. Would work even better in AH due to the fact AH has much better visual depth.

Small problem though.

NOBODY WOULD PLAY IT.

I remember Major Fangio coming into the main every night and begging for people. Some of us would go over there, and in about an hour, it was down to maybe one other Pig and me against Fangio.

When Pyro would set it for Pac War, with Cats and Zekes, maybe you could see a dozen in there or so. But it took skill, it took alot of patience, and it took some getting used to.

If you thought that was bad, a one life to live would be 100x worse. It would take one dweeb auguring and the screaming would begin here on the BBS. It would be deafening.

Just thought I'd provide that background...

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