Author Topic: How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.  (Read 290 times)

Offline Slobberdonkey

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How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.
« on: September 07, 2004, 04:35:08 PM »
As said in the subject...

Instead of locking out planes when a side gets a numbers advantage, perk them instead.  

Possible formula for perk price?

If perk mulitplier < 0.9

Perk price of plane = ((1 - Perk Multiplier)*100)/Plane ENY

Applied to planes, vehicles up to 30 ENY.  (Exception made for Panzer since there is no acceptable substitute)

So for example if Rook perk multiplier is 0.80

Perk price of a 5 ENY plane would be  4

To adjust prices just adjust the number in the formula (example is 100)
« Last Edit: September 07, 2004, 04:38:55 PM by Slobberdonkey »

Offline killnu

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How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 04:44:58 PM »
sounds good. question tho, you gave panzer an exception for being only one of its kind(so to speak)  what about planes with no variants?  Ex. P-38?

im sure there are others, but 38 comes to mind quckly.  :D
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How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2004, 04:49:11 PM »
hitech addresed this as "unfair" to newbies so it wont happen

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How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2004, 04:53:43 PM »
For perking them to work you'd need to have an actually painful price.  Say, start with 500 perk points added to the base price and multiply it based on the current perk multiplier.  So an Me262 would have a price of 700 perk points, a Spitfire Mk XIV would have a perk price of 545 and a La-7 or P-51D would cost a mere 500 perk points, all subject to perk multiplier cost increases.

I hardly have a horde of perk points by the standard of AH and I wouldn't even feel a price of 4.  I regularly earn four to five times that in a single flight and I am a bit above average at best.
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Offline killnu

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How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2004, 07:07:43 PM »
maybe the equation could be "tweaked" to make the perk points hurt a tad if lost.  and as far as newbies go, start with 500 to start, then they go from there.  

maybe not those numbers, but the principle idea might be worth something to look at.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2004, 07:43:43 PM »
once again, huge bank rolls and more timid flying just ruin this idea brought up so often.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2004, 08:08:38 PM »
To address some interesting points brought up.

The only exception to the rule for the panzer is there because there is no high ENY substitute for it that is actually effective at stopping enemy armor.  For planes this doesn't apply as there are a plethora of high ENY substitutes in any category.  For the example of the p-38, a p-47 makes a fine substitute for any role the p-38 could have (just harder to use).

The large bankroll thing could be addressed by placing a cap on total available perk points.  No more player hoarding of tens of thousands of perk points.  Say 1000 Max in any category.  Any gains after that are not saved.

And as far as making the cost painful enough that just involves modifying the formula what I proposed was only an example.  Change the 100 to a 1000 and then example has a 40 point perk price.

Additionally it might be nice if perks were awarded in the same manner as score.  1.25 times amount earned on landing.  0.75 times amount earned on ditch.  0.5 on bailed.  0.4 on captured.  0.25 on ditch.

And to the issue of it being too hard on new players I disagree.  There are several planes with higher ENY that can do well in the hands of a newer player and new players are typically more readily able to switch sides if they can't fly their plane of choice on their current side.  My squad already does this as a whole, all jumping to whatever side seems to need us most on any given night.

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How about instead of locking Low ENY planes, perk them.
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2004, 08:30:04 PM »
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Originally posted by B17Skull12
once again, huge bank rolls and more timid flying just ruin this idea brought up so often.


I have to agree ... in theory it's a great idea.

The only possible exception came from the "La 7" thread which was the perk the late '44 rides a few points worth each across the board. They'd still be easily affordable, but wouldn't get thrown away on pork'n'augers. Scaling this up or down a point here or there based on odds would then have some effect.

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