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Offline schizer

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« on: September 07, 2004, 05:32:43 PM »
Thought provoking flash video


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html

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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2004, 05:37:24 PM »
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Thought provoking flash video


http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pentagon.html


Did you mean "laughable conspiracy theory"?

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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2004, 05:38:09 PM »
I see a "Nothing to See here" coming...
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2004, 05:51:52 PM »
It's actually a troll.  I was just wondering if anyone caught it.

1)  No opinion provided by the creator.
2)  No question asked

Just a potentially flammable link.  It is my hope people will figure out these things and just ignore them.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2004, 05:54:19 PM »
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It's actually a troll.  I was just wondering if anyone caught it.

1)  No opinion provided by the creator.
2)  No question asked

Just a potentially flammable link.  It is my hope people will figure out these things and just ignore them.


You give me far more credit than I deserve.

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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2004, 05:55:23 PM »
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It's actually a troll.  I was just wondering if anyone caught it.

1)  No opinion provided by the creator.
2)  No question asked

Just a potentially flammable link.  It is my hope people will figure out these things and just ignore them.


How about: "Dispose of Properly"?
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2004, 05:56:08 PM »
I did?  Not sure what you mean there Martlet.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2004, 05:59:03 PM »
actually, it had made a couple interesting arguments, watched it twice.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2004, 05:59:55 PM »
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I did?  Not sure what you mean there Martlet.


I insulted myself.....poorly it would seem.

Meaning if you assume I'm smart enough to figure out for myself that it was a troll then you give me more credit than I deserve.

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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2004, 06:01:29 PM »
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
It's actually a troll.  I was just wondering if anyone caught it.

1)  No opinion provided by the creator.
2)  No question asked

Just a potentially flammable link.  It is my hope people will figure out these things and just ignore them.


Wow, so easy to classify things.  I just thought it was interesting and thought some other people might think the same. Nothing more nothing less.  Ease up on the AH BB witch hunt.

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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2004, 06:05:22 PM »
That's part of why it's a troll.  Check out this article on internet trolls, it's interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Excerpt:
"Trolling is often described as an online version of the breaching experiment, where social boundaries and rules of etiquette are broken. Self-proclaimed trolls often style themselves as Devil's Advocates or gadflies, challenging the dominant discourse and assumptions of the forum they are "trolling" in an attempt to subvert and introduce different ways of thinking. Detractors who value etiquette claim that true "Devil's Advocates" generally identify themselves as such for the sake of etiquette, whereas trolls often consider etiquette to be something worth trolling."
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« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2004, 06:13:07 PM »
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That's part of why it's a troll.  Check out this article on internet trolls, it's interesting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Excerpt:
"Trolling is often described as an online version of the breaching experiment, where social boundaries and rules of etiquette are broken. Self-proclaimed trolls often style themselves as Devil's Advocates or gadflies, challenging the dominant discourse and assumptions of the forum they are "trolling" in an attempt to subvert and introduce different ways of thinking. Detractors who value etiquette claim that true "Devil's Advocates" generally identify themselves as such for the sake of etiquette, whereas trolls often consider etiquette to be something worth trolling."


No different from posting photoshopped pictures of Kerry/Bush, or hey caption this.  It is simply a link to a flash video, questioning the pentagon, big whooop.  I guess it's quick to label it a troll or whatever the hell you want, I see simply as a link.

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« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2004, 06:29:58 PM »
Here's the difference, you're not putting any context on it.  There's no delivery, just a vague 'thought provoking video' comment.  The difference between someone who wants to spark a lively discussion versus someone who is trolling can be very fine.

If you prefaced it with (and were honest):
"This video makes some really good points about the 9/11 attacks.  After watching it, I'm thinking we were lied to and there's a conspiracy to cover it up" or "Look at the latest crackpot video, it's pretty nutty"

...then you wouldn't be in this boat.  One of the roots for the term 'trolling' is the physical act of dropping a hook into the water, then driving around in your boat waiting to see who 'takes the hook'.  There's a direct correlation between your thread starting post and that phenomena because you haven't provided the active structure I mention above.

The next questions I'd have to figure out are: "Is he naive and doesn't understand the difference or are his continued responses part of the troll?"  I'm not deciding on that last one yet, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but you should understand that others won't.  Keep in mind, more then one person has suggested you're trolling.  If you're the only one who thinks he isn't, that might be something to think about.

PS, inadvertent trolling is very possible.
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« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2004, 06:47:08 PM »
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Here's the difference, you're not putting any context on it.  There's no delivery, just a vague 'thought provoking video' comment.  The difference between someone who wants to spark a lively discussion versus someone who is trolling can be very fine.


With context,  :D
« Last Edit: September 07, 2004, 06:51:09 PM by Sandman »
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« Reply #14 on: September 07, 2004, 06:48:37 PM »
In this case, we have an obvious repost of an item and/or a subject known to have created exceedingly long flame filled threads in the past. It is hard for a reasoned individual to see it as anything other than a troll for a flamefest.

Look, this is real simple. This same subject and a couple of related subjects have either been reposted or "punted" several times in the last week or two, with the expected results. In the case of THIS PARTICULAR SUBJECT, the threads have been locked, and some people banned in the process.

Why bother? And if you do, why expect anything else than at least a lock and a temporary ban?
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