Author Topic: Terrorists and Assault Weapons (Read 2064 times)

rpm · « **on:** September 07, 2004, 08:00:00 PM »

The assault weapons ban is scheduled to expire very soon and it looks like it will not be renewed. Serious question, is this a good thing?

With the War on Terror in high gear we are about to make it VERY easy for these weapons to be purchased. Why force them to smuggle weapons across the border when they can head to Cabella's or Bass Pro Shops? I am a gun owner and avid hunter, but I've never needed an AR-15 or a Bushmaster to kill a deer. It just seems to me that we may be lowering our defenses only because of the elections.

Sandman · « **Reply #1 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:04:00 PM »

Can anyone define what is or is not an assault weapon?

hawker238 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:04:32 PM »

I'll agree with you before the **** hits the fan.

ra · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:05:24 PM »

The 2nd amendment isn't about killing deer.

The "assault weapon" ban was just for show, weapons just as deadly, or more so, were always legally available even with the ban. Terrorists don't give a damn what our laws are.

ra

rpm · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:14:40 PM »

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Originally posted by ra
The 2nd amendment isn't about killing deer.

The "assault weapon" ban was just for show, weapons just as deadly, or more so, were always legally available even with the ban. Terrorists don't give a damn what our laws are.

ra

ra, how many terrorists use a bolt action Winchester .270? I see a need for hunting rifles, but I really can't see a need for rifles that can drop 30 deer in 10 seconds.

ra · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:15:30 PM »

The 2nd amendment isn't about hunting.

Martlet · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:17:35 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Can anyone define what is or is not an assault weapon?

According to the assault weapons ban, most of the traits that qualified a weapon as an assault weapon were cosmetic:

* A folding or telescoping stock
* A pistol grip
* A bayonet mount
* A flash suppressor, or threads to attach one (a flash suppressor reduces the amount of flash that the rifle shot makes. It is the small birdcage-like item on the muzzle of the rifle)
* A grenade launcher.

Horn · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2004, 08:26:11 PM »

^^^

Wasn't the ban the vehicle which did away with high capacity magazines too?

Like it matters whether I can shhot 10 or 25 shots without reloading my .22

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Otto · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2004, 09:17:57 PM »

How can you ban something that's been illegal for 50 years...!? The current ban is not about Assault Rifles. It's about weapons that 'look like' Assault Rifles'.

Also, according to the Druge Report Senator Kerry voted to ban the Shotgun he just received as a gift. To weird....

http://www.drudgereport.com/dncg.htm

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:16:06 PM »

"Wasn't the ban the vehicle which did away with high capacity magazines too? "

Yup

United · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:22:08 PM »

I feel the assault weapons ban was a joke. It makes guns that LOOK like an assault rifle illegal.

So, I could take a semi-auto rifle, and with some help from a gunsmith, and make it fire automatically. Wouldnt that be more dangerous than a bolt action rifle that looks like an assault rifle?

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:26:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman
Can anyone define what is or is not an assault weapon?

Anything that looks "scary" and has a nasty "banana magazine."

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:27:17 PM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
There is no such thing as an "assault weapon". The definition is a political scam that allows politicians to ban any and all firearms if they wish. "Gun control" is another scam in the USA, "gun ban" is what they are doing.

There is no way you typed this.

No.

Way.

Mrs. GS, give him the computer back.

Chairboy · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:30:01 PM »

Rather then go over the same arguments, I'd like to suggest checking out this site:

http://www.a-human-right.com/

JBA · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2004, 10:35:28 PM »

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040907/nytu290_1.html?printer=1

National Shooting Sports Foundation: Kerry Accepts Shotgun He Would Ban as 'Assault Weapon'

Tuesday September 7, 5:00 pm ET

RACINE, W.Va., Sept. 7 /PRNewswire/ -- The following is a press release regarding the Remington model 11-87 shotgun that Sen. John Kerry recently accepted:

At a Labor Day campaign rally yesterday, Sen. John Kerry accepted an ironic gift from a labor union representative. The gift, a Remington model 11-87 shotgun commonly used in hunting and recreational shooting enjoyed by millions of Americans, would be banned as an "assault weapon" under a bill that Kerry is co-sponsoring.

"The semi-automatic shotgun that Kerry accepted is one that he'd like to ban under his bill known as 'The Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2003 (S. 1431).' Kerry tells union workers that he's a hunter, but the truth is he would ban their shotguns," said Lawrence G. Keane, senior vice president and general counsel of the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF).

Keane said several sportsmen's groups have pointed out that Kerry's effort to cast himself as an avid hunter do not square with his anti-gun votes as a U.S. senator. In various photos Kerry appears unaware of proper firearms handling. The Hunting and Shooting Sports Heritage Fund is advertising in national sportsmen magazines and on the Web site,

http://www.voteyoursport.com,

to illustrate these points.

Kerry was given the shotgun by Cecil Roberts of the United Mine Workers of America. The union represents workers at a Remington factory in Ilion, New York. Last year the union urged Kerry to support a bill to end frivolous lawsuits against firearms makers (S. 659). The suits threaten manufacturing jobs.

However, Kerry voted against the bill.