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« Reply #75 on: September 09, 2004, 11:19:53 AM »
Kewl!

In the Old West, as the bank robbers shot their way out of the bank, the Sheriff and alert townsmen would rush out and trade shots with the bank robbers.

Mild mannered storekeeper Scholtz would grab his double barrel, step out on to the boardwalk and unload one barrel into the Sheriff's back and then nail any other citizen still shooting at the robbers with the other barrel.

The townsfolk would then honor him for his unusual respect for the sanctity of life.
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« Reply #76 on: September 09, 2004, 11:26:27 AM »
Ok, the bank robbers have successfully robbed the bank without killing anyone and are just riding out of town shooting into the air.

Same result; storekeeper Scholz shoots the Sheriff and the Townsman.

Happy now?

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« Reply #77 on: September 09, 2004, 11:29:33 AM »
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Then quite frankly you would be committing murder.

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« Reply #78 on: September 09, 2004, 11:35:01 AM »
That works. Of course, they'd throw a necktie party and you'd be the guest of honor.
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« Reply #79 on: September 09, 2004, 11:38:17 AM »
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Kewl!

In the Old West, as the bank robbers shot their way out of the bank, the Sheriff and alert townsmen would rush out and trade shots with the bank robbers.

Mild mannered storekeeper Scholtz would grab his double barrel, step out on to the boardwalk and unload one barrel into the Sheriff's back and then nail any other citizen still shooting at the robbers with the other barrel.

The townsfolk would then honor him for his unusual respect for the sanctity of life.


I don't believe anybody has argued againt using lethal force against armed robbers shooting their way out of a bank.

We're responding to tce2506, lasersailor184, flakbait and others asserting that a car thief should be gunned down just on the principle that car thieves don't deserve to live.

Relating back to the gun rights argument, these are the whacko poster children for the anti-gun lobbey and we can all do without them in our crusade to retain our gun ownership (and lawfull use) rights.

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« Reply #80 on: September 09, 2004, 11:46:45 AM »
I hope the dumbacrats concoct another law like this a year down the line.  Because this one made me a boat load of money when I sold all my "Pre-ban" stuff for top dollar (100% over cost), now all I have to do is re buy the same stuff after the ban goes away in 5 days for pennies on the dollar...

Thanks dumbacrats.  You made me money for once as opposed to taking it away!

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« Reply #81 on: September 09, 2004, 11:47:04 AM »
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Nonono, read the last sentence again.


I did. I'm just suggesting the "honor" you'd receive would be made of strong manila rope and be generically known as the Hangman's Noose.
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« Reply #82 on: September 09, 2004, 11:50:46 AM »
What you propose there is vigilantism. I enjoy seeing you defend the concept. How typically......... hypocritical? :)

Would I shoot you? I don't know. More likely, I'd step between you and him while telling you that I'll help the cops track him down and replace your car in any event.

When caught, I'd let him go to prison too. Then I'd have to ask myself if I was part of the problem that led him to crime instead of asking me for a loan.
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« Reply #83 on: September 09, 2004, 12:02:28 PM »
Toad, go back and read the original posts of tce2506, lasersailor184, flakbait.

Vigilantism is exactly what they advocated and they used their need to be vigilantes to justify their right to own and use a gun.

In my book that's a pretty big step backward for us who believe in the second amendment and the spirit in which it was written.

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« Reply #84 on: September 09, 2004, 12:04:39 PM »
I read it.

I'm just enjoying Scholz advocate vigilantism himself. I love it when he does that kind of stuff.

Mav laid it all out for anyone who has an ounce of common sense.
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« Reply #85 on: September 09, 2004, 12:09:58 PM »
As Mav pointed out to you, what you espouse in this thread would be highly illegal vigilantism.
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« Reply #86 on: September 09, 2004, 12:11:46 PM »
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« Reply #87 on: September 09, 2004, 12:22:18 PM »
Really? I find that very hard to believe.

You can shoot at anyone shooting at anyone else?

Should make a lovely daisy chain down the street.
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« Reply #88 on: September 09, 2004, 12:22:30 PM »
Um, shooting a car thief has nothing to do with the second amendment. It has to do with the right to protect your personal property from low lifes who are commiting a FELONY. It's called Grand Theft Auto. Yes, I have insurance to replace my car. It's also going to cost me my deductable(whatever that may be set at), plus MY insurance rates as well as my neighbors' insurance rates will increase because we NOW live in a high crime area. Sure we can complain to the cops who will send an extra patrol car to our area once a week. Gee thanks. Yep, Id much rather just sit on my porch and kindly ask the punk to please not take my car. If i didn't have a gun nearby, I'd grab my ball bat, tire iron, kitchen knife, wooden spoon, lawn chair or whatever else was nearby and I wouldn't stop shooting or swinging untill he/she stopped moving, or was no longer in my reach. And Samiam and GToRA2, you sirs, are the ones who are a detriment to our 2nd ammendment rights. Saying its OK for them to restrict our rights a little bit at a time is just what they want. Just keep giving them that inch, they won't want anything else. The spirit of the 2nd amendment is to keep our government from taking away our rights. The 2nd is the only one that guarantees the rest.  OK, I think I'm done now......

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« Reply #89 on: September 09, 2004, 12:31:13 PM »
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And Samiam and GToRA2, you sirs, are the ones who are a detriment to our 2nd ammendment rights. Saying its OK for them to restrict our rights a little bit at a time is just what they want. Just keep giving them that inch, they won't want anything else. The spirit of the 2nd amendment is to keep our government from taking away our rights. The 2nd is the only one that guarantees the rest.  OK, I think I'm done now......


Let me be clear. I believe in very few restrictions and the AWB isn't one of them. I believe strongly that an armed population is a vital deterent to an oppressive government.

I also believe that you asserting that it's OK to shoot a car thief as an act vigilantism because if you don't your insurance rates will go up is NOT in the spirit of the 2nd amedment and rhetoric like it will only result in more restrictive gun laws.

I hope you are done now.