simmer/gamer...community

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by NoBaddy
Hmm...that reminds me. Any old AW types out there have a copy of Cent's "Tao of Dok"? I lost mine years ago and could use a good laff.

I lost mine during one of the times I moved in the last few years. Cent promised to get me a PDF version years ago but never did get it to me.

[Crashy]

Originally posted by NoBaddy
Hmm...that reminds me. Any old AW types out there have a copy of Cent's "Tao of Dok"? I lost mine years ago and could use a good laff.

I still have a copy. Packed away somewhere...have moved several times over the last couple years.

I'll see if I can dig it up.

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by Crashy
I still have a copy. Packed away somewhere...have moved several times over the last couple years.

I'll see if I can dig it up.

Please drop me an email if you can find it.

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I agree with pretty much all but I have to comment about your point a.

What constant upgrading need is there for this game??

It's not like a new version of the graphics engine comes out every few months.

AHII was in beta for how long? About 8 months? That's plenty of time for people to save up $150-300 for an upgrade (if they didn't want to build/buy a new PC). Actually AHII was announced well before the beta came out, so people had plenty of time to upgrade.

I was actually hoping for even a better graphics engine, I feel I was cheated out of it because a lot of people refused to upgrade and HTC had to keep that in mind.

If someone has a  situation that doesn't allow them to save money to do an upgrade in over a year in future then I really don't think they should be spending the 15/month to begin with.

Originally posted by airbumba
Gamer or Simmer

I watched a show on PBS the other night about the evolution of the video game, it was a good show, but it might have just answered a few lingering questions I’ve had about Aces High it’s community and the ever present ‘two camps’ syndrome which seems to prevail every topic raised. I do not and will not pretend for a second to speak about the community as a whole or even two majorities, it’s an individually based dynamic entity constantly evolving, and answers to it’s ailments will be just as fluid.
 
After seeing that show, I’ve come to the conclusion that the community is loosely split between gamers and simmers, as mentioned before on this BBS. I understand more about the ‘gamer’ after watching that show. Some observations,  the gamer is always in charge, if not in control, of the situation. Most gamers play roles where they are not themselves, whether through ‘god’ type games, or ‘rpg’ games. The purpose of many ‘games’, is escape from reality, or fantasy, by immersing yourself in a world full of situations where you can act any way you wish, because you are not playing as yourself. In fact it would be impossible to act as yourself in many ‘rpg’s, since staying ‘in character’ is what it’s all about.

The simmer, ‘flight simmer’ in this case would rather be in control of the situation than in charge of the game. Simmers play as themselves, by this I don’t mean they put their Soc. Sec.# as their CPID, I mean they are playing as they, themselves, would handle the situation in RL. Control of the aircraft is before gaming the game. Simmers are less inclined to be the crowd rushing off to buy the biggest machines, because graphics were just an added bonus to the early Flight Simms, and they ran on miniscule machines.

What’s this got to do with anyone here, well a few things..

(a)when an old MS Flight Simmer like myself sees all the people shooting down folks who say they can’t afford upgrading, I get confused? We’re not ‘gamers’, for many of us, the only game we play is a flight sim, (that’s my case anyway) so constant upgrading is new to us. Again just a misunderstanding between two worlds, the gamer and simmer.

(b)When a person comes from the ‘rpg’ gaming world , where they’ve never played as themselves and therefore their only community involvement has been anonymous, they might feel as if they can get away with acting in a different manner, then they would in RL, as themselves. This would make it very difficult to form a sense of community.

(c)Finally I want to mention the aviation community. Firstly and foremost, that is the category most of us fit in. We all love airplanes. We wish we could swan about poking the clouds and buzzing the fields. Even for those of us who do fly in RL, we can’t do what we can in a simm. Ultimately the respect I hope returns to this community, can , and will only return when gamers and simmers alike aspire to show the aviation community the respect it deserves

So what to do?
 Next time think before you speak.
 I find it a bit odd that the same guy that has a touching saying in his signature showing respect for a WW2 pilot, turns around and spews vile trashtalk at another guy with a similar sig, in a game that is supposed to be a kind of testimonial to our lasting respect of all WW2 pilots.

 Before you start ranting and flaming someone, think first, maybe that person just finished spending 50 hours on the making of that last scenario you enjoyed so much.

Be a good sport. Maybe that guy you just flamed for shooting you down was enjoying a quiet fun moment in an otherwise very difficult day. Don’t wait to find out the same guy has a sick kid in a hospital somewhere to say your sorry, don’t say it in the first place.

I'm not perfect, lol, by no means, I don't flame anyone , but I can ramble on range, or type to much, I'll fix that.

Well that’s about enough of your time, thanks for listening and I look forward to watching as the good folk in this community take it back.

CYA up there.

[MOIL]

"What constant upgrading need is there for this game??

It's not like a new version of the graphics engine comes out every few months.

AHII was in beta for how long? About 8 months? That's plenty of time for people to save up $150-300 for an upgrade (if they didn't want to build/buy a new PC). Actually AHII was announced well before the beta came out, so people had plenty of time to upgrade.

I was actually hoping for even a better graphics engine, I feel I was cheated out of it because a lot of people refused to upgrade and HTC had to keep that in mind.

If someone has a situation that doesn't allow them to save money to do an upgrade in over a year in future then I really don't think they should be spending the 15/month to begin with"


It's all part of computer gaming, no different than owning a quad or dirtbike. You buy upgrades to gain performance, gain an advantage or just make it look cool!
Saving a gobb of loot to spend on hardware for a computer game is no different, unfortunately if you were to ask the community what they got in return for spending $$$ on upgrades and new rigs the concensus is, a hair better than AH1.

"I was actually hoping for even a better graphics engine, I feel I was cheated out"

Me too  

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by Crashy
I still have a copy. Packed away somewhere...have moved several times over the last couple years.

I'll see if I can dig it up.

Email me too if you find it ... I really want to scan and OCR it in.

[Lone Wolf]

In my hand is a copy of
"The Tao of Dok".  Let me know how to get a copy to you!
LW

[AWmoggy]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
I lost mine during one of the times I moved in the last few years. Cent promised to get me a PDF version years ago but never did get it to me.

I'll drop Cent a note and see if he has it handy.


-moggy

[Lone Wolf]

Buy me a wine cooler at the con and I'll bring you a copy :>
LW

Originally posted by NoBaddy
Please drop me an email if you can find it.

[DoKGonZo]

Originally posted by Lone Wolf
In my hand is a copy of
"The Tao of Dok".  Let me know how to get a copy to you!
LW

Cool ... email me at diespammersdie@gonzoville.com and we'll go from there.

     -DoK

[NoBaddy]

MOGGY!!! How yah been dood??

LW, bring it to the con. I will get a copy there.

[Lone Wolf]

already got your copy run off....will have at the con for you
LW

Originally posted by NoBaddy
MOGGY!!! How yah been dood??



LW, bring it to the con. I will get a copy there.

[Lone Wolf]

Moggy you really need to come to the con.  We need an excuse to organize a SAR mission like we did in Indy a few years back....me, DD, Tex, and I vaguely remember at least one orther person...and seems there were multiple enema tangos around...lots of moving targets...and other distractions ;>
LW

QUOTE]Originally posted by AWmoggy
I'll drop Cent a note and see if he has it handy.


-moggy [/QUOTE]

[DoKGonZo]

Thanks to Westy for digging up the PDF of The Tao. It's now posted on gonzoville.com where it belongs.

Lordy, I used to have fun on those message boards. Nothing like filet-o-dweeb.

[NoBaddy]

Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Thanks to Westy for digging up the PDF of The Tao. It's now posted on gonzoville.com where it belongs.

Lordy, I used to have fun on those message boards. Nothing like filet-o-dweeb.

Westy & Dok

Thanks to you both.