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« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2004, 02:12:27 AM »
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Originally posted by Preon1
Yes, you keep all your knowledge.  I see three strategies:

-Go back to ancient/feudal times so that your increased knowledge gives an extreme advantage over everyone else in the world.

-Go back to a point in modern history where you can change a single event and take advantage of it

-Send somebody else back to make a number of choice investments so that you can spend the rest of the modern era taking over the world.


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« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2004, 02:50:32 AM »
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... Thank god for Churchill - he was the greatest man of the 20th Century..


Now we agree on something!

Churchill was DA MAN!


Me , I'd just study history a lot and go back to the eve of the 20th century. I'd try to impress the world leaders with my 'divination' powers (by warning them in advance of disasters i.e. the Titanic...) and try to steer them away from WWI with the influence so gained.

I'd probably be just some kind of Cassandra, but it would be worth to try.
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« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2004, 02:55:21 AM »
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Go back to adam and eve, knock out adam, get it on with eve.. you are now the proud father of the entire world..

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« Reply #33 on: September 10, 2004, 02:56:23 AM »
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I'd go back to September of 2004 and tell everyone that if elected president, John Kerry will destroy America.

Oooops, my secret's out. ;)


So it was YOU!!

LOL  hehe :D
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« Reply #34 on: September 10, 2004, 03:00:37 AM »
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Originally posted by JB73
no

but i would care about that crazy stuff, i would write on my body the winner of every superbowl / world series, AND which stocks to buy.

then go back to 1940


But then your landing site might be some road, you get hit by a car and die. Meanwhile, some doctor doing an autopsy, sees all your predictions and he makes the millions if not billions. He'd probably be dead by now of old age.
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« Reply #35 on: September 10, 2004, 03:04:44 AM »
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10 years. I think I could learn enough about nuclear physics in 10 years to instruct 1930-1940 era physicists to make an atomic bomb. Heil me.


But then because of the troble of getting enriched Uranium, your project isn't finished by the time Hitler's army invades your country. Hitler's Gestapo gets ahold of you, your scientists, and all your secrets. Nazi Germany gets the bomb first and rules the world. BTW, Hitler has you and your group of scientists train his German scientists, then has you and your group killed because he can't let you escape to the "other" side.
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« Reply #36 on: September 10, 2004, 03:07:36 AM »
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If the UK was knocked out of WW2 in 1940 Germany and Japan rule 3/4 of the world - simple as that.  Japan would probably take hold of the British colonies in asia and would thus be freed from their materials shortages, so no Pearl Harbor. As a result of this and loss of UK base the USA remains isolationst. The Russians could not hold out aginst a full attention of Germany and Japan without support and distraction from UK and US.

And if it wasnt for Churchill and some German blunders this could well have happened. Thank god for Churchill - he was the greatest man of the 20th Century..


What if Hitler had withheld his invasion of the USSR. Would he have been able to conquer England?
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« Reply #37 on: September 10, 2004, 03:09:28 AM »
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They've done it to every time-traveler so far.

I keep tellin' the dimensional time patrol ...... don't go to Salem! But ... noooooooooo. One went to France and held onto her liberated philosophy ..... wrong answer.


Arlo and RTStuka,

LOL!!!! :rofl
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« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2004, 03:15:27 AM »
Depends on what Kingdom you want to rule -

Personally, I would go back a few years before Hugh Hefner got his idea about a magazine for men and beat him to the punch.

It might be a small kingdom in the grand scheme of things, but I can't think of a better one to rule :)

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« Reply #39 on: September 10, 2004, 04:39:26 AM »
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They've done it to every time-traveler so far.

I keep tellin' the dimensional time patrol ...... don't go to Salem! But ... noooooooooo. One went to France and held onto her liberated philosophy ..... wrong answer.

:rofl   That's AWESOME!

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Heh thats easy.

In 10 years you can learn how to build firearms similar to those used in the wild west (simple to make even with very primitive metallurgy knowledge), you can learn basic medicine, chemistry and learn martial arts (sword/spear/bow/unarmed).

Then send yourself back to the very early bronze age, find a big tribe (200 peeps), take over them as leader, begin conquering tribes with your advanced stuff


in less than 20 years you will pretty much own the planet.

Just dont give your back to brutus.

Hopefully that tribe of 200 people are near other tribes who have enough navigational knowhow to get you around the world to conquer it.  The farther back in history you go, the more difficult it is to make a world wide empire due to limitations in travel and communications.

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I think that this relies on a faulty premise--that modern knowledge would actually be an asset in earlier times. I think the argument could be made in the last 200 years or so, but after that modern knowledge would probably be a severe disadvantage.

Case in point, hygene. We are used to it here to protect us form disease and well discomfort. However, back then the lack of hygene would not only be distatasteful, but potentially deadly (read bacteria, etc). Notice as well that past about 100 years the food would probably kill you.

Notice as well that basic concepts of human interaction have changed dramtically. Just showing up at a particular time in a particular place speaking a strage dialect would probably get you killed PDQ.

Also one would be quite unprepared to do the basic chores of life. Think making ones own clothes, butchering meat, procuring clean water, etc...and even if you could manage, the time it took would leave little time to take over the world.

Dude, go camping.  I used to teach survival in the Air Force; you can live without modern ammenities easy enough.  I imagine the basics could be easily taught in a month.  The rest of the 10 years would go to language, culture, science and engineering.  I'm not saying it's easy, or even that it's possible, but the idea is certainly fun to ponder.

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« Reply #40 on: September 10, 2004, 07:35:07 AM »
"Hopefully that tribe of 200 people are near other tribes who have enough navigational knowhow to get you around the world to conquer it. The farther back in history you go, the more difficult it is to make a world wide empire due to limitations in travel and communications. "

The idea is that IM the know-how.  

Communications are not an issue really. Just set up my own pony express for starters ;) .. it worked for the romans!