German Planes/HTC

[VWE]

Yes they will  In two weeks

That sounds a bit early, we haven't finnished beta testing version 1 yet.

[GScholz]

Originally posted by Misfit
GScholz,
Can i get that gun sight from ya in that pic?

Sure

http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/245_1095077408_gsdefaultlarge.zip

[SirLoin]

Originally posted by Kweassa
All planes have their limits in the AoA which, if you cross over, you will stall. Planes react differently on the verge of the stall, but some planes react extremely making it easy to handle, while others react benevolently.

 

This is true..and only applies to axis planes..when flaps down they are pigs unlike allied planes.

[Karnak]

GScholz,

The Spitfire in your diagram is not a Spitfire Mk XIV.  It has a Merlin engine.  The Mk XIV had a Griffon engine and had 2 or 3 degree better visibility over the nose.

The Spitfire in your picture appears to be a Spitfire LF.Mk XVIe powered by a Merlin 266.

[GRUNHERZ]

Good god is the spitfire an ugly and unwieldy airplane compared to that Messerscmitt..  And dammit I want flettner tabs on our late AH 109 ailerons..

[Crumpp]

Grun,

You got one of those scale drawings with an FW-190 and a Spitfire Mk IX?

Especially the front view.

Crumpp

[GRUNHERZ]

Nope

[Kweassa]

There was a gigantic discussion in IL2/FB boards about the 190 visibility over the nose. Lots of pics and diagrams and stuff.

(except, the UBI discussion boards don't support search functions, and its gonna be hell going through all that)

[Crumpp]

Thanks Kweassa.

I was actually looking to demonstrate the intake areas.  If you look at a scale drawing of the Spitfire Mk IX it has just as much "intake" area as the FW-190.  Instead of two squares under the wing, the FW-190 has one circle at the nose.

Combine that with it's physically larger size and it is easy to see why the Spitfire has more drag when you do the math.

Crumpp

[Misfit]

S! fellas,
Another good conversation. I have enjoyed reading the input as usual.

But can we get someone from HTC to throw us a cookie in here on the 2 topics?

Summary

Tinted gunsight
Flap speed deployment on 190s and 109s.

[Elfie]

Originally posted by Krusty
I had a sweet high-alt P51B vs 109F4 duel not long ago. I thought it was  G at first, until he kept up with me. I had to turn slow, as not to lose speed. We were 15k or more. So because we both were trying to keep speed up (~200) we extended a lot, but when I pushed it, and when we slowed down, that 109F4 kept up with me in flat turns. I made some mistakes and lost a flap, an aileron, and  my oil, but it was a great fight.

Sounds like a fight I had in my 109f-4 with a P51b not so long ago

[GODO]

http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWfocke190.htm

"After firing a burst of tracer at me he bore down on Martell. Yes, it certainly was one-the short wings, the
radial engine, the long transparent hood: the square-cut tail-plane all in one piece! But what had been missing from the photos was the lively colouring-the pale yellow body, the greyish green back, the big black crosses outlined in white. The photos gave no hint of the quivering of the wings, the outline elongated and fined down by the speed, the curious nose-down flying attitude."

[simshell]

its realy easy to understand why the LW planes are misdone


its because HTC IS A SPIT DWEEB!:p

[Elfie]

Don't hold your breath on seeing any of these changes implemented. Most players prefer allied aircraft and if I were on board with HTC I wouldn't want to upset my predominant customer base.

I prefer historical accuracy above all else. If the Luftwaffe planes flew better I am sure that more people would fly them. As it is you still see lots of 109's and 190's in the air.

[Kweassa]

Well.. here's what I dug up with for what it's worth. Concerning the nose-down flight attitude and line of sight.