What car should i get?

[1K3]

ty very much for the feedback:)...

Now my question is,...

Do 60s-70s car have power stirring?

Can  60s-70s junk muscle car handle like "bimmers" if you replace it
with sport-type shocks/struts?

Can 60s-70s junk stop like "bimmers" by replacing drums with 4 disc 12' disc brakes with ABS or EBD?

Does 60s-70s muscle car chassis support new engines?


Btw, my dream car is a restored Dodge Charger chassis with upgraded features like BMW/Honda type suspensions, powerful 4 disc brakes with ABS and EBD found on Infiniti G-35, and the super-efficient 4cyl turbo monster found on Mitsubishi Lancer EVO:D

[phookat]

Originally posted by J_A_B
My cousin's first car was a '78 Chevy Nova that was fixed up so that it could break into the 13's in the 1/4 (13.8 or so was his best).

The key here is "fixed up".  When you fix it up, it is no longer the same car.  So it has nothing to do with whether the original was good or not.  You can fix up just about anything and make it great.

[phookat]

Originally posted by 1K3
Do 60s-70s car have power stirring?

Yup.  They're a bit more fun to drive with the power steering removed, but a complete PITA in parking lots if you do that.

Originally posted by 1K3
Can  60s-70s junk muscle car handle like "bimmers" if you replace it
with sport-type shocks/struts?

No, unfortunately.  Not even close.  This would entail a lot of money and time, and after you are done it will still not handle well.  Two limiting factors here--chassis stiffness and weight.

Originally posted by 1K3
Can 60s-70s junk stop like "bimmers" by replacing drums with 4 disc 12' disc brakes with ABS or EBD?

Perhaps.  If you put much thicker tires on it.  I don't think you will find 3rd party EBD systems though.

Originally posted by 1K3
Does 60s-70s muscle car chassis support new engines?

Yep.  But instead of a EVO 4 banger, you could stuff in a Twin turbo intercooled V8.  That would rock.


So, 1K3, from this response I see that you are a car guy.  Are you into handling/fun-to-drive, or into straight line rockets?

[Staga]

Well if you buy an old muscle car you'll learn soon how to fix cars; too bad you won't have money to buy parts after spending them all to fuel and tires... ;D

[J_A_B]

phookat:

Given that a stock 78 Nova is about as crappy as they come (well it's better than a Gremlin), that car is definate proof that you can fix up anything.

Point is he bought it in that fixed up condition, didn't do the wok himself.  It held up fairly well for a mid $3K car.


Staga:

Thanks for the link.  Looks like the first-gen Lexus runs about on par with the Cadillac I used to have, just a tiny fraction faster.  Suprisingly it also requires pemium gas, just like the Caddy did.  The newer ones seem to be more on par with the Buick.  


J_A_B

[1K3]

Originally posted by phookat
So, 1K3, from this response I see that you are a car guy.  Are you into handling/fun-to-drive, or into straight line rockets?

I'm fine with both as long as my cousin's souped up Grand Prix GTP (new Z or V rated tires, stiffer suspesion,) does not lean left when turn right @ moderate speeds:D

[phookat]

Originally posted by 1K3
I'm fine with both

LOL Yeah both is good...  But if you had to pick one, which do you prefer?

[Irocz]

here's a little something to help you make your decision.
http://ryan.cayton.org/misc/gtpvsviper.wmv
Brings a tear to my eye,reminds me of the GNs

Do 60s-70s car have power stirring?l

some cars did,most musclecars were ordered low-optioned because they were lighter(faster) and cheaper.
 

Can 60s-70s junk muscle car handle like "bimmers" if you replace it

Yes, but your pockets will be hurting.

Can 60s-70s junk stop like "bimmers" by replacing drums with 4 disc 12' disc brakes with ABS or EBD?

again, you can throw some Lakewoods or some Baers on pretty much any popular musclecar and it will stop on a dime,its gonna cost you though

Does 60s-70s muscle car chassis support new engines?

You should be able bolt anything in between the fenders of most musclecars,the most popular engine swap I've seen lately has to be LS1, the engine gets great mileage(the C5 vettes get 29 on the highway I believe) for a V8, and they're light. But like I explained unless you're good buddies with someone that owns a junkyard or has the hookup,its not really feasible for a teen. Sorry for the long post

[Irocz]

Yep. But instead of a EVO 4 banger, you could stuff in a Twin turbo intercooled V8. That would rock.

This guy has the right idea

[1K3]

Originally posted by phookat
LOL Yeah both is good...  But if you had to pick one, which do you prefer?

This question is too hard!

that's why there's a car company called...Bayerische Motor Werken:D



btw, is the 1076hp monte carlo mod street legal?

[NUKE]

Get a 1968 El Camino.

That was my first car. It even had an 8-track!

I wish I had never sold it.

[Masherbrum]

Originally posted by Kev367th
Got a 96 Eclipse myself, 95,000 miles, serviced regularly - still going strong.

FORD - Found On Roadside Dead

I have a 2002 Explorer w/ AMSOIL treatment.  I should get more than 150,000 miles on the engine.  Never punched it within the first two oil changes.  Changed it every 5,000 myself.  Wife' 1997 Taurus spins like a top with 91,000 miles on it.  It'd smoke that Mitsu*****i.  

First On Race Day = FORD

Karaya

[NUKE]

Ford makes great cars and trucks.

[Lazerus]

Originally posted by Irocz
This guy has the right idea

Haven't seen that in awhile, love that clip.

btw, is the 1076hp monte carlo mod street legal?

Didn't pay that close attention to the car, but is that a monte or a GN?

'78 Dodge Diplomat. Man what a POS. Saved my life a few times at least. Owned a '76 Nova in there somewhere too. Fun car.

Get ya an older car like what these guys are saying. Drive it for a year. If you and it make it, hang on to it and rebuild/recondition it. Your first car is something that you will never forget. Not so much for the car, but for the experience.

Get a 1968 El Camino.

That was my first car. It even had an 8-track!

I wish I had never sold it.

Most guys here probably feel the same way. "LEARN HOW TO WRENCH YOUR OWN RIDE!", or whatever the quote was. The guy is spot on. Another benefit of hooking up with an older American car that hasn't been reconditioned is that you will quickly get a lesson in mechanics. Get it now while you can afford to. What you learn will stay with you your whole life, and might just come in handy. It's good stuff to know.

Of course, you don't have to get one that hasn't been reconditioned, you have 7k to spend. That will buy you alot of someone else's time and sweat in a car like that. Something in the middle would probably be better. Something someone has started on, kept in good running condition.

That '78 Diplomat, that big brown POS. I wish I still had it, just because. That old Nova, I wish I had it so I could fix it up. The '73 Dodge Dart, had about 30k original miles on it when I got my dirty little hands on it,(original tires from the factory still on it in '93) that would be a cool ride too. '73 LeMans, that was one strong old SOB.

Originally posted by 1K3
I just got my drivers' licence today, and i have $7,000 somewhere in my room

My question is what car should i get? used Hondas, Toyotas, or Ford?

If ya got to get an old Ford, get a Gran Tourismo, or a late '50's CrownVic. Save the Hondas and Toyotas for when your wife has yer balls in her purse. You'll still have that first car of yours in the garage hopefully.

[Irocz]

The car in the second vid is a 87 GN(Regal T-type WE-4,same thing almost) with I believe a twin-turbo 406,I don't really remember,its been awhile since I've seen that video also. But the funny thing is he's not even getting all that power to the dyno. As for street-legal, I couldn't tell ya but from the looks of the header primaries dumping out the fender,I'm gonna say no.
And the first video is a mildly-modded GTP beating a Viper RT/10. Its pretty sweet when your blower is soo loud that it drones out the Viper's V10.