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Offline vorticon

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« on: September 12, 2004, 02:36:29 PM »
rather than invade iraq, bush went after north korea...


1. would the UN have backed him
2. would more or less people died
3. would he have more or less support from the world
4.  would they have actually found wmd, or attempts at obtaining them

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2004, 02:42:47 PM »
1. would the UN have backed him
2. would more or less people died
3. would he have more or less support from the world
4. would they have actually found wmd, or attempts at obtaining them

1.  No.  UN was not going to back pre-emptive war with a Republican in office.
2.  Yes.  Probably by a factor of 100.
3.  Less.  See 1.  Plus the body count.
4.  Yes.

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2004, 02:47:59 PM »
Remember, North Korea is HIGHLY indotrinated and NKs would actually for him.

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2004, 02:58:44 PM »
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Originally posted by vorticon
rather than invade iraq, bush went after north korea...


1. would the UN have backed him
2. would more or less people died
3. would he have more or less support from the world
4.  would they have actually found wmd, or attempts at obtaining them


whoops forgot to answer my own what if question

1. probably, more countries would have supported it, though france would have still vetoed since he would actually have some evidence.
2. more.
3. probably about the same or a little more.
4. yes

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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2004, 03:12:18 PM »
this thread is gayness.

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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2004, 04:10:15 PM »
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this thread is gayness.


only since you showed up

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2004, 04:17:04 PM »
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1. would the UN have backed him
2. would more or less people died
3. would he have more or less support from the world
4. would they have actually found wmd, or attempts at obtaining them
1.  No.  United Nonthing
2.  10,000's if not 100,000's more.  NK is a country that is willing to use material unlike iraq.
3.  probably less.  Asia specificly.
4.  Hard to tell.  Their leader is very secerative and might have just been bluffing.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2004, 04:32:32 PM »
One million dead in the first 24 hours, if I remember correctly. And that's just the conventional weapons estimate.

 Seoul would be the "sea of flames", as they like to threaten. Seol is in range of NK arty, of which there are over 10,000 pieces on the DMZ. Something like 200 240mm mlrs pieces are supposedly in range of Seoul. Japan would would sustain missle attacks. The north koreans would roll over the 2nd ID and the South korean's initially. The korean soldier is possibly the most regimented and toughest in the modern world. The civilian population of north korea isn't much softer.

We would have to burn down their country again to eject them from south korea.

You should watch this.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/kim/view/
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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2004, 04:45:28 PM »
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Originally posted by vorticon
rather than invade iraq, bush went after north korea...


1. would the UN have backed him
2. would more or less people died
3. would he have more or less support from the world
4.  would they have actually found wmd, or attempts at obtaining them


1.)  UN is useless
2.)  50-50 Chances that more people died
3.)  Probably less support
4.)  Can't tell
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2004, 05:15:24 PM »
1. UN? Nope. The last time the UN did uphold its charter was, ironically, in the Korean War (gulf war 1 was UN approved because of the oil all the main UN nations depended on).

2. Without a question, more. Exponentially more. The south korean capital wouldve been anhiliated before the UN forces even landed in korea. Remember NK has thousands of high caliber artillery trained on it. Plus they also have nukes and biochems.

3. Support from the world? See #1.

4.  no doubt, yes and hell yes.

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2004, 05:54:33 PM »
Suave you should really look out the strenght of the S-Korean army and compare it to NK's army.

You might find the reason why NK is so eager to develope a nuclear weapon.

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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2004, 05:55:49 PM »
Yes, it's all South Korea's fault.  They have no reason to be well armed.  History proves that North Korea and China are no threat whatsoever, while South Korea has a long established pattern of agression against them.   It is time for Scandanavia to rise up and help defend their North Korean brothers against unchecked aggression.  Deth to Amreeka!!!  :D
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2004, 06:12:06 PM »
DPRK wants nukes because they want to get paid.
That, and the leadership has convinced the populous that the USA is determined to invade their country.

North Korea's military, with the exception of it's navy, is quite a bit larger than that of South Korea combined with the US forces that are there.

And I'm just talking about the active duty military. 30% of able body men and women in north korea are in reserve units.

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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2004, 06:28:53 PM »
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10,000's if not 100,000's more. NK is a country that is willing to use material unlike iraq...


... which had none.

NK is a pretty tough nut to crack. Diplomacy is probably the best option, although of course that wouldn't provide the same amount of interesting gun-cam footage that could be posted by retards on internet forums.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2004, 06:34:11 PM »
no war against NK--

united states of israel doesn't wage war against a country that has real weapons to fight back with