A question for Rooks...

[Grits]

I fly Rooks, so this is not a Bish/Knight whine, just a question in the interest of the game as a whole.

To the squads that participate in the RJO, dont you think it has outlived its usefulness? It was originally started to help the Rooks when they had their backs against the wall, that situation is now gone. Would it not be reasonable to stop the RJO and spread out the Rook squad nights? Every good idea runs its course.

[gofaster]

One thing I've noticed is that we Rooks now have numbers most of the time, yet nobody seems to be accomplishing anything.

[Alpo]

I really don't understand why everyone has the correlation that Sunday = RJO.  It's NOT the case.

Yes... we have had RJO Ops on Sundays, but we've had them on other days as well.

RJO is where everyone participating is under one Grand Poobah and the various squadrons try to carry out those orders (ie.  coordinated strikes)

Yes... a lot of Rook squads have Squad Night on Sunday making it SEEM like RJO numbers.  However, it only takes a few minutes on a non-RJO Sunday to see that there is often no rhyme or reason to Rook attacks.  You might have multiple squads hitting the same area, but very seldom are they coordinating.  

[SlapShot]

I really don't understand why everyone has the correlation that Sunday = RJO. It's NOT the case.

True ... but I did read in one post, someone said that due to the RJO, most/alot of Rook squads did change their squad night(s) to Sunday so that when a RJO took place, they killed two birds with one stone.

This is probably why most assume that when the Rooks have an overwhelming number of players on a Sunday night, that the RJO is active.

[RTSigma]

I think the point is to basically have fun.

When I participated in RJO some time in the summer, I felt like I was part of something. Squadrons were working together, you could hear reports coming in, GhostDancer was an excellent coordinator along with the hosting squadron itself.
It felt great knowing that for one night, there was a serious cause for the RJO.

I'll be darnt if someone says that they shouldn't do it.

[Zanth]

Sort of off topic, but it is a shame some of this energy didn't find it's way to the biweekly snapshots and or events.  That structure was/is so much more suitable for this, instead events are sparsely populated and events like CAP sort of died on the vine.

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=133

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?forumid=60


AH has become largely a single arena game that attempts to mix a myriad of game play desires into one - that is the real trouble.  Having events in the MA is sort of a square peg in a round hole hence a lot of friction (and lately game play changes from the top).  Sort of like being in a bowling alley when league night starts and you dont belong to league.

What would (should) fix everyone up is a stronger events side, maybe Tour of Duty, I don't know.....    Wierd one thing that has always struck me about AH is it's weak participation in the event side compared to other flight games.  With AH numbers you would think there would be huge events every week - but a very small percentage fly events.   Strange eh?

[Flossy]

Originally posted by RTSigma
When I participated in RJO some time in the summer, I felt like I was part of something.

Agreed.... when I decided on a second account earlier this year, the RJO was one of my reasons for choosing Rooks - that and the fact that a very good friend of mine who I spent a lot of time with in AW, was a Rook flying with The SkyKnights.  

I have taken part in a few RJOs and really enjoyed the organisation of them, making me feel I was really contributing something to the overall success.  However, they are not held as often as most people seem to think!  

[gofaster]

Our squad night is actually Friday night, 10:45 in the SEA.  We may or may not migrate to MA as each of us gets killed off trying to save Sikboy.

[RT]

RJO has become a tradition and it's a great thing for Rooks on Sunday nights.  WTG ROOKS.  

The lame and lazy opponents know it's coming and will a little bit of teamwork and common welfare ... even a handful of players could bust barracks and frustrate the RJO.  

Changing RJO simply rewards and enables weak and lame play by the Bishops or Knights, and deprives Bishops and Knights of the opportunity to improve their play.  

Sht why don't you ask HT to wipe your arse for you too?  

WTG ROOKS HAVE FUN RJO TIL YOUR LITTLE HEARTS'  CONTENT.


RTHUS

[Arlo]

Originally posted by RT
Sht why don't you ask HT to wipe your arse for you too?  

Feeling threatened by a suggestion, are we?

[Delirium]

RJO is fine by me, coordinate to your heart's content... its not my favorite way of having fun in AH (striking buildings/structures) but to each their own.

The bad effect of the RJO is that everyone logs on to take part in it and this coordinated effort turns into a complete hording rout. I still feel that 75% of the RJO effectiveness was their numbers and not their superior organization.

I don't feel the ENY has helped either, its limited overall numbers and created yet another rift. There has to be another solution, besides the 'egg timer' tower sitting.

Lastly, why flame? I didn't send HT a bribe, nor did I complain about the RJO (least that I remember). This whole issue could of been easily fixed (and STILL can) but it will take people who do not have some silly loyalty to a virtual chess peice.

Originally posted by RT
Sht why don't you ask HT to wipe your arse for you too? RTHUS

[Grits]

OK, Ill rephrase the question:

Since RJO is mostly inactive, why dont some of the Rook squads that have squad night on Sunday move it to another night?

I dont have an agenda either way. I am a CT guy, who happens to also be in an MA squad, and we happen to be Rooks. I rarely go over 5k ground level, I dont fly in hordes (most the time I fly into them) and I dont like lopsided odds from either side of the coin. Everyone has more fun when odds are not out of reason.

The moral of this story, is WE[/b], the AH player community, could have fixed this without HT having to do anything, but silly loyalty to a chess peice wont allow some to think clearly.

[RTSigma]

I don't think its chess piece loyalty.

There could be KJOs, BJOs too but that doesn't happen.

Maybe those who are on the rooks just like how everyone gets along and that there are events like RJO that they can depend on to be other Squads out there that are working towards the same goal together.

Also it could be squad loyalty. The Rapid Thunder squad has a lot of members and trying to have them switch sides constantly would just be confusing and hard to get the whole squad to switch.

However, if you're just a lone player with affiliation, then it shouldn't be a problem for them to switch whenever.

On another note, its hot as dickens here in Charleston, IL, 85 degs in the middle of September!!!

[Howitzer]

The 4 wing really hasn't been part of the RJO for some time now, I think it kinda stopped for us when Manx switched to WWII online.  I just have free time on Sunday night with which to play the game, so I do a lot of flying then.  I really don't think we should frown on anyone's attempt to amass numbers of people working together because this game could use all of this behavior that it can get.  

[Howitzer]

Originally posted by RTSigma
I don't think its chess piece loyalty.

There could be KJOs, BJOs too but that doesn't happen.

Maybe those who are on the rooks just like how everyone gets along and that there are events like RJO that they can depend on to be other Squads out there that are working towards the same goal together.

Also it could be squad loyalty. The Rapid Thunder squad has a lot of members and trying to have them switch sides constantly would just be confusing and hard to get the whole squad to switch.

However, if you're just a lone player with affiliation, then it shouldn't be a problem for them to switch whenever.

On another note, its hot as dickens here in Charleston, IL, 85 degs in the middle of September!!!

Oooh you are in Charleston?  I'm in Champaign  =)  its hot here as well.