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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2001, 04:21:00 PM »
The ONLY two bombers that I know of that would qualify as perks are the Ar234 and the B-29.

The He177 should be a normal, selectable aircraft when it is added.

You should get mega perk point bonuses for flying a successful mission in a Stuka.

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2001, 04:56:00 PM »
Yes, an A-26 Invader could 'perk' me up :}

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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2001, 05:07:00 PM »
Ar-234 and A-26 seem like the obvious choices.  B-29 too I guess, and the Ju-288?

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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2001, 05:48:00 PM »
The A26 was an incredible attack aircraft.. up to TWENTY TWO .50 cal MG's; (16 of 'em pilot controlled, firing forward) 6000lbs of bomb load, 350mph at 20K and a 2,OOO fpm climb rate. And that was just the WWII solid nose version. Hell; they got even meaner after that.  

 

It remained in the inventory; blowin stuff up and howling down thru canyons and valleys relentlessly attacking ground assets of the germans; the japanese; the koreans the cubans and the vietnamese over the course of about 30 years.. and when they were finally yanked off the line it was not because a replacement had been found, but because the few that were left were so damn tired...  

Even now; AirSpray still has 18 of 'em tearing down thru canyons; fightin fires intead of lighting 'em.  

This beast could have a significant impact on strat in the game.. and tho I agree; it need not be perked, I contend that it SHOULD be here in the sim in some form.. the sooner; the better.  

Need someplace dead, quick?? GIMMIE AN A26!  

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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2001, 06:19:00 PM »
Generally though, the common A-26 combat package was the 8 or 6 gun strafer nose, and the twin gun upper turrent.

Sometimes the duce pods were added, but usually only two. Same with rockets, the lower turrent, and the various bomb loads.

I think the 20 and 22 gun configurations were for test purposes only. And why would you need that many guns?   The nose guns alone carried @ 1600 rpg. Thats plenty for anyone.

But 350mph at 20k is still pretty slow compared to most fighters, and it's only going to be able to bring one turrent at a time to bare. And it's going to be down on the deck to put those guns to any good use (well other then ACMs   )

I'd like to see three versions myself: The level medium bomber configuration (alot faster then the B-26 but defensive guns are not nearly as effective, especially if the periscope sights are implemented.

The 8 or 6 gun strafer nose with bottom turrent flared over or removed, and the several ammunition loads for the nose guns including the 1600 rpg option (!) and the other shorter belts. Perhaps lighter ordinance or rocket option. In most ground attack missions they didn't load the bigger ordinance often and is why it often gets the "Light bomber" designation. I suppose I wouldn't want 1000lbers or 500 GP's slung under me if I was doing N.O.E. missions

Then of course the perk version, including the heavy ordinance options, both or neither turrents, rockets, gun pods, and the A-26 adaptation of the Soviet quad 20mm Hispano nose used on the A-20 on the Easterb front  

The only two I can think of that would have a consistant rate of surviving arena play and thats the Ar234 and the B-29. Anything else can be chased down and shot up by the better part of the plane set.

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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2001, 09:00:00 PM »
The Arado 234
The B-29 Superfort
The A-26 Invader

Other than those, I also cannot think of a super bomber.  Maybe some of the concept art bombers the Germans had, but not many of them actually became anything.

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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2001, 09:08:00 PM »
B36?

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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2001, 09:33:00 PM »
Aircraft and Vehicles Forum?  

Anyway,

Ar-234
Ju-388
B-29
A-26
Mossie NF. Mk-30  



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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2001, 09:48:00 PM »
Oh....sure perk the B-29. Just hope your ready to climb up to 30+K and listen to the whines about the stratobuff dweeb. The B-29 regularly flew missions between 20-37K (i think)

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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2001, 09:51:00 PM »
A-36 Apache. P-51 looks, dive brakes, a wail worse then any Stuka ever thought of having, P-51 looks, dive brakes, Allison engine, and did I mention the P-51 looks and dive brakes?
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2001, 10:00:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by texace:
Oh....sure perk the B-29. Just hope your ready to climb up to 30+K and listen to the whines about the stratobuff dweeb. The B-29 regularly flew missions between 20-37K (i think)

As long as we get an A-bomb....  


The B-29's service ceiling? I have it as under 32k, but what use is my pop-up look-em-up book anyway?  

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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2001, 10:03:00 PM »
Roger that Jig; I agree.. the A26 would fare even less well than the B26 Marauder in a defensive situation.. but the way I intend to fly it; it'll excell. I believe it's sea-level top speed was about 373 mph, and with that bodacious climb rate gettin to the target will be a mite more fun than haulin ashes in a Lancaster fer an hour. NOE penetration, grab to strike alt; unload on acks; come down again fer the party.  

FAST ATTACK! Used with close fighter support in a field assault/capture profile the damn thing will kick bellybutton and take many many names. Several of them workin together would probably be able to snake a fighter or two. I'm using the current B26 Marauder that way now; and do pretty well with it... and anything having to do with gettin stuff on the ground pounded flat the Invader will do better than a Marauder.  

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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2001, 10:16:00 PM »
A perk bomber is coming in 1.06, I'll give you that.  Can the choice be deduced?  



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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2001, 10:23:00 PM »
Oh; damn... clues??

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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2001, 10:25:00 PM »
Its either the b-29 or the a26. I dont think ANY other buffs are uber enuf to merit perking.