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Offline Black Sheep

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Question about the ENY
« on: September 14, 2004, 12:23:39 AM »
If you stopped limiting the planeset based on side numbers, and started limiting time between flights of the lower ENY aircraft. IE, youve got 400 on your side, you want your pony D ride so bad, that you wont suicide it into a hangar cause it'll take 10 min before its enabled again after you die. That or up a C202.
Lets not limit the planeset, but the time between flights, even if its 3 minutes.

I'm sure someone thought of this already and shot it down :)

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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2004, 12:34:25 AM »
That's not a bad suggestion...  You could still have giant furballs, people could still up to defend bases, people could still fly the planes they'd like, people probably wouldn't fly too timidly because the plane they like isn't perked.

It's also not like you're putting a limit on the # of people that can up from a field, which I really don't go for (Some of the most fun fights can be had where your 20+ horde meets 20+  people all upping from their base - many will get off the ground, it can get a little intense).

Then again...  It has "compromise" written all over it.  People will hate it :p
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2004, 12:41:01 AM »
Exactly - the lesser of 2 evils

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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2004, 01:29:20 AM »
Sheep,

Midnight and myself pushed for a time limit between flights about 18 months back but it got shouted down.  Maybe now that it could be an alternative to the ENY limit, it may be more palatable...

Anyways, I like your suggestion.

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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2004, 01:41:35 AM »
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Sheep,

Midnight and myself pushed for a time limit between flights about 18 months back but it got shouted down.  Maybe now that it could be an alternative to the ENY limit, it may be more palatable...

Anyways, I like your suggestion.

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I think so long as the time limit wasn't for all planes, this could work.  If it was for all planes, pretty soon you'd find yourself with noone to shoot and nothing to do.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2004, 08:33:58 AM »
Not for all planes - Lower ENY values would have a longer wait time between flights - Higher ENy values would not be affected (or have a minimal wait time of say 5 seconds)

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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2004, 08:38:09 AM »
HT's original suggestion was close to this and it got a lot of screams :).  However I like the twist you've added which is apply the ENY time limiter to low ENY valued planes.  I agree, it might be more palatable!

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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2004, 09:14:53 AM »
I like that idea.

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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2004, 09:20:05 AM »
or just switch teams - the objective of all this isn't to limit players access to planes but to simply balance the arena.  Tough concept for some to understand but it's really that simple
« Last Edit: September 14, 2004, 09:22:11 AM by Zanth »

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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2004, 09:24:36 AM »
I like this as an alternative to the current lock out.

Now, what some will likely say is that this would cause timid flying.  To be honest, I would rather have more timid flying and a delay to re-up than loose access to a plane together.

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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2004, 09:26:15 AM »
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or just switch teams - the objective of all this isn't to limit players access to planes but to simply balance the arena.  Tough concept for some to understand but it's really that simple


Some people don't want to switch team.  Tough concept, for some to understand, but it's really that simple. :)
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2004, 09:30:55 AM »
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Some people don't want to switch team.  Tough concept, for some to understand, but it's really that simple. :)


Hence hitech was required to take action, case closed.

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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2004, 09:35:55 AM »
We've switched teams temporarily on squad nights.  The problem is we like to fly together with our squad mates outside of that as well so the 6 hour limit presents some challenges if we are switching teams between individual players throughout the week.  With a squad of 24 people it gets a little challenging.

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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2004, 10:00:54 AM »
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Hence hitech was required to take action, case closed.


And some people still don't switch sides, and some people log off and some people have have canceled there accounts.  So much for wasted effort.

Zanth, if you love the ENY thingie, great, good for you.  But not everyone does and not everyone sees with your eyes on this issue.  To you it is as simple as people switching sides and if they won't voluntarily, they should be made to.  Kind of a weird mind set, but everyone is entitled to their own view.

HTC takes action, individual players take action.  HTC makes decisions, individual players make decisions.  I know that rubs against your sensibilities, but that is the way it is.  Some people (like me) will not switch sides because this game means more to them than just score or balanced numbers or a fair fight.  Maybe that is an outdated concept to some, but it isn't to others.




I sure hope the case isn't closed...if it is, Aces High's days are numbers.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2004, 10:14:23 AM »
Still wouldn't appease the 'I want to fly what I like WHENEVER I want to' brigade.
In effect your still limiting the plane its just based on different criteria. In fact I blelieve if this was ever implemented you'd be waiting a lot longer than 5 -10 mins. e.g. if you base the limit on the current ENV limit, most still wouldn't 10 -15 mins to get one. (10-15 based on what the average ENV limit seem to be)
Maybe reducing the switch time from the current 6 hours would help?
« Last Edit: September 14, 2004, 10:18:36 AM by Kev367th »
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