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Offline Silat

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« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2004, 12:43:44 AM »
15. The Environment

BUSH SUPPORTS MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE... "[If elected], Governor Bush will work to...establish mandatory reduction targets for emissions of four main pollutants: sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury and carbon dioxide." [Bush Environmental Plan, 9/29/00]

...BUSH OPPOSES MANDATORY CAPS ON CARBON DIOXIDE "I do not believe, however, that the government should impose on power plants mandatory emissions reductions for carbon dioxide, which is not a 'pollutant' under the Clean Air Act." [President Bush, Letter to Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), 3/13/03]

16. WMD Commission

BUSH RESISTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE... "The White House immediately turned aside the calls from Kay and many Democrats for an immediate outside investigation, seeking to head off any new wide-ranging election-year inquiry that might go beyond reports already being assembled by congressional committees and the Central Intelligence Agency." [NY Times, 1/29/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS AN OUTSIDE INVESTIGATION ON WMD INTELLIGENCE FAILURE "Today, by executive order, I am creating an independent commission, chaired by Governor and former Senator Chuck Robb, Judge Laurence Silberman, to look at American intelligence capabilities, especially our intelligence about weapons of mass destruction." [President Bush, 2/6/04]

17. Creation of the 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." [CBS News, 5/23/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CREATION OF INDEPENDENT 9/11 COMMISSION "President Bush said today he now supports establishing an independent commission to investigate the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks." [ABC News, 09/20/02]

18. Time Extension for 9/11 Commission

BUSH OPPOSES TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION... "President Bush and House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) have decided to oppose granting more time to an independent commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks." [Washington Post, 1/19/04]

...BUSH SUPPORTS TIME EXTENSION FOR 9/11 COMMISSION "The White House announced Wednesday its support for a request from the commission investigating the September 11, 2001 attacks for more time to complete its work." [CNN, 2/4/04]

19. One Hour Limit for 9/11 Commission Testimony

BUSH LIMITS TESTIMONY IN FRONT OF 9/11 COMMISSION TO ONE HOUR... "President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have placed strict limits on the private interviews they will grant to the federal commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks, saying that they will meet only with the panel's top two officials and that Mr. Bush will submit to only a single hour of questioning, commission members said Wednesday." [NY Times, 2/26/04]

...BUSH SETS NO TIMELIMIT FOR TESTIMONY "The president's going to answer all of the questions they want to raise. Nobody's watching the clock." [White House spokesman Scott McClellan, 3/10/04]

20. Gay Marriage

BUSH SAYS GAY MARRIAGE IS A STATE ISSUE... "The state can do what they want to do. Don't try to trap me in this state's issue like you're trying to get me into." [Gov. George W. Bush on Gay Marriage, Larry King Live, 2/15/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT BANNING GAY MARRIAGE "Today I call upon the Congress to promptly pass, and to send to the states for ratification, an amendment to our Constitution defining and protecting marriage as a union of man and woman as husband and wife." [President Bush, 2/24/04]

21. Nation Building

BUSH OPPOSES NATION BUILDING... "If we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road." [Gov. George W. Bush, 10/3/00]

...BUSH SUPPORTS NATION BUILDING "We will be changing the regime of Iraq, for the good of the Iraqi people." [President Bush, 3/6/03]

22. Saddam/al Qaeda Link

BUSH SAYS IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEEN AL QAEDA AND SADDAM... "You can't distinguish between al Qaeda and Saddam when you talk about the war on terror." [President Bush, 9/25/02]

...BUSH SAYS SADDAM HAD NO ROLE IN AL QAEDA PLOT "We've had no evidence that Saddam Hussein was involved in Sept. 11." [President Bush, 9/17/03]

23. U.N. Resolution

BUSH VOWS TO HAVE A UN VOTE NO MATTER WHAT... "No matter what the whip count is, we're calling for the vote. We want to see people stand up and say what their opinion is about Saddam Hussein and the utility of the United Nations Security Council. And so, you bet. It's time for people to show their cards, to let the world know where they stand when it comes to Saddam." [President Bush 3/6/03]

...BUSH WITHDRAWS REQUEST FOR VOTE "At a National Security Council meeting convened at the White House at 8:55 a.m., Bush finalized the decision to withdraw the resolution from consideration and prepared to deliver an address to the nation that had already been written." [Washington Post, 3/18/03]

24. Involvement in the Palestinian Conflict

BUSH OPPOSES SUMMITS... "Well, we've tried summits in the past, as you may remember. It wasn't all that long ago where a summit was called and nothing happened, and as a result we had significant intifada in the area." [President Bush, 04/05/02]

...BUSH SUPPORTS SUMMITS "If a meeting advances progress toward two states living side by side in peace, I will strongly consider such a meeting. I'm committed to working toward peace in the Middle East." [President Bush, 5/23/03]

25. Campaign Finance

BUSH OPPOSES MCCAIN-FEINGOLD... "George W. Bush opposes McCain-Feingold...as an infringement on free expression." [Washington Post, 3/28/2000]

...BUSH SIGNS MCCAIN-FEINGOLD INTO LAW "[T]his bill improves the current system of financing for Federal campaigns, and therefore I have signed it into law." [President Bush, at the McCain-Feingold signing ceremony, 03/27/02]

26. 527s

Bush opposes restrictions on 527s: "I also have reservations about the constitutionality of the broad ban on issue advertising [in McCain Feingold], which restrains the speech of a wide variety of groups on issues of public import." [President Bush, 3/27/02]

…Bush says 527s bad for system: "I don't think we ought to have 527s. I can't be more plain about it…I think they're bad for the system. That's why I signed the bill, McCain-Feingold." [President Bush, 8/23/04]

27. Medical Records

Bush says medical records must remain private: "I believe that we must protect…the right of every American to have confidence that his or her personal medical records will remain private." [President Bush, 4/12/01]

…Bush says patients' histories are not confidntial: The Justice Department…asserts that patients "no longer possess a reasonable expectation that their histories will remain completely confidential." [BusinessWeek, 4/30/04]

28. Timelines For Dictators

Bush sets timeline for Saddam: "If Iraq does not accept the terms within a week of passage or fails to disclose required information within 30 days, the resolution authorizes 'all necessary means' to force compliance--in other words, a military attack." [LA Times, 10/3/02]

…Bush says he's against timelines: "I don't think you give timelines to dictators." [President Bush, 8/27/04]

29. The Great Lakes

Bush wants to divert great lakes: "Even though experts say 'diverting any water from the Great Lakes region sets a bad precedent' Bush 'said he wants to talk to Canadian Prime Minister Jean Chrétien about piping water to parched states in the west and southwest.'– [AP, 7/19/01]

Bush says he'll never divert Great Lakes: "We've got to use our resources wisely, like water. It starts with keeping the Great Lakes water in the Great Lakes Basin...My position is clear: We're never going to allow diversion of Great Lakes water." [President Bush, 8/16/04]

30. Winning The War On Terror

Bush claims he can win the war on terror: "One of the interesting things people ask me, now that we're asking questions, is, can you ever win the war on terror? Of course, you can." [President Bush, 4/13/04]

…Bush says war on terror is unwinnable: "I don't think you can win [the war on terror]." [President Bush, 8/30/04]

…Bush says he will win the war on terror: "Make no mistake about it, we are winning and we will win [the war on terror]." [President Bush, 8/31/04]
+Silat
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2004, 12:51:54 AM »
:D

[size=10]landslide Kerry!![/size]
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2004, 01:18:40 AM »
Drunky, thats not Muck - its BGB. Same squad, way different typing abilities.

BGB/GreenCloud, If I'm not mistaken, ASTAC = Coolrider - a Navy man (enlisted or officer, don't remember).

He really isn't off in the assessment. Both campaigns are nothing more than smear, very little real issues have been presented, compared, or even argued over by either party. It has boiled down to who can shovel more ****. Anyway you slice it, that just isn't good for our country at all.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2004, 05:27:29 AM »
Silat
you can remove all of those that span pre 9/11 to post 9/11 as anyone with half a brain realizes the world was changed at that point in time ...

it is simple -  you do not like Bush - don't vote for him

your problem is, more do not like skerry - LOL

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« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2004, 05:41:57 AM »
Lies? Bush found any WMD"s lately? Has to be one of the biggest lies ever, especially since it was used to sell the invasion of another country.



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« Reply #20 on: September 15, 2004, 07:46:31 AM »
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Originally posted by NUKE
I find it VERY funny that he testified that he commited war crimes in Vietnam, but now says he was a patriot wishes to betrayed as a Vietnam war hero. Which is it?


Kerry's own words

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2004, 01:09:51 PM »
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Originally posted by Edbert MOL
Kerry's own words


He was good back then as well....six, seven, eight, nine?

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« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2004, 01:15:05 PM »
Silat, please provide a link to each one of the quotes listed please.
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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2004, 01:31:41 PM »
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Originally posted by Drunky
flame bait

not that I don't agree with you.

but still flame bait.


who cares?

Kerry sucks. Thats all that matters here. phlaym bait that.
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« Reply #24 on: September 15, 2004, 03:20:09 PM »
just reading though the second bunch of things you wrote silat, I would really like to argue the points but what is the point. I don't type that fast nor have that amount of time to screw around at work.

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« Reply #25 on: September 15, 2004, 03:52:59 PM »
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Originally posted by Eagler
Silat
you can remove all of those that span pre 9/11 to post 9/11 as anyone with half a brain realizes the world was changed at that point in time ...

it is simple -  you do not like Bush - don't vote for him

your problem is, more do not like skerry - LOL

LANDSLIDE BUSH!!!


Your problem is that its OK to slam kerry but not bush.

  Fair and balanced !
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« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2004, 03:54:11 PM »
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Silat, please provide a link to each one of the quotes listed please.



Bodhi if I had the time to go back and do so I would. But you can google as easy as I. They are true.Some of those quotes have clues about the date and what paper reported it.
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"The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them." — Maya Angelou
"Conservatism offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." B. Disraeli
"All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason."

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« Reply #27 on: September 15, 2004, 03:58:34 PM »
Just a thought Silat, but you might want to call them, "possibly qualified sources", as anything you get from the media may or may not be true.
As of this minute, it is quite possible to find anything you want to support virtually any position you want.
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« Reply #28 on: September 15, 2004, 04:05:36 PM »
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Just a thought Silat, but you might want to call them, "possibly qualified sources", as anything you get from the media may or may not be true.
As of this minute, it is quite possible to find anything you want to support virtually any position you want.


Skuzzy the point of the counter posts is that the righties in here never call for proof of the posts for their positions. The quotes from my posts can be found anywhere. BUsh said them and they are documented.
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"The first time someone shows you who they are, believe them." — Maya Angelou
"Conservatism offers no redress for the present, and makes no preparation for the future." B. Disraeli
"All that serves labor serves the nation. All that harms labor is treason."

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« Reply #29 on: September 15, 2004, 04:08:43 PM »
I call for a new rule....

WHenever posting a quote, the source must be listed...

and I get to say whether the source is verifiable...

:D
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