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Offline gofaster

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« on: September 16, 2004, 08:47:33 AM »
Confused college student or serious religious fundamentalist?  You decide!

Personally, I think the long pants and shirt are not practical for the sport, but the head scarf might be do-able if it was close to the head.  Otherwise, it would just be a matter of time until some opposing center got her arm caught up in the hajib's material and someone either ended up with a sprained elbow or choking.

USF Awaits NCAA Ruling On Veiled Athlete
By GARY HABER ghaber@tampatrib.com
Published: Sep 14, 2004

 
TAMPA - It will be the National Collegiate Athletic Association's call whether a University of South Florida women's basketball player wears a Muslim head scarf during games.

On Friday, USF officials said they would petition the NCAA to allow Andrea Armstrong, a senior forward-center and co- captain who converted to Islam, to wear a head scarf, called a hijab, long pants and long-sleeve shirt during games and practices.

Erik Christianson, a spokesman for the NCAA in Indianapolis, said Monday the group has not received a request from USF. The NCAA receives about one or two requests a year and considers them on a case-by-case basis, he said.

Armstrong, 22, has said she was forced off the team and lost her scholarship because she wanted to wear the hijab, which is part of Islamic religious practice.

USF officials deny that, saying Armstrong quit the team. She rejoined the team after a meeting Friday with school officials.

``She's a member of our basketball program, and we're moving forward,'' head women's basketball coach Jose Fernandez said. ``We're focusing on the upcoming season.''

Armstrong, a communications major, transferred from Kansas State in 2002. The Lakeside, Ore., resident sat out the 2002-03 season in accordance with NCAA transfer rules. She averaged 3.4 points and 2.3 rebounds per game last season. She could not be reached for comment Monday.

Ahmed Bedier, Florida communications director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was pleased with USF's handling of the matter.

``Once they understood the ramifications that they were possibly infringing on the athlete's First Amendment rights, they were accommodating,'' Bedier said.

Armstrong ``wants to finish off her collegiate career on a positive note, without controversy,'' Bedier said. ``But she didn't want to compromise her faith.''

If the NCAA grants Armstrong's request, she will be one of only a handful of athletes to wear religious garb on the playing field.

At the Olympic Games last month in Athens, Rakia al- Gassra, a runner from Bahrain, wore a hijab with her nation's flag on it when she competed in the women's 100 meters. She finished fifth in the first round, second heat.

Tamir Goodman, a Jewish basketball player at Towson University in Maryland, wore a skullcap, called a yarmulke, when he played.

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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2004, 08:53:00 AM »
If she looked like Barbara Eden I think she'd give the term "dribbling balls down the court" a hole new meaning!

I could dig it!  I bet front row seats would go for a premium!



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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2004, 12:20:23 PM »
It's always the converts who go out of their way to cause trouble. Doesn't matter what the religion.

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2004, 12:22:59 PM »
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It's always the converts who go out of their way to cause trouble. Doesn't matter what the religion.


"converts"  = "Gee, how can I get the attention my parents never gave me?"

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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2004, 12:30:18 PM »
A team has a uniform...you wear the uniform or you don't play. Thats it there is nothing else to it. She cries religious discrimination..I say she wants to break the rules.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2004, 02:47:39 PM »
I say let her!


She just has to get the cloth for the headscarf from the lower part of the uniform ;) :D

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2004, 08:23:14 AM »
Update to this story: the point is moot.  Seems Armstrong didn't like having to choose and didn't like the media attention so she quit the team, thereby removing the controversy.

I wonder if she'll go full-core and live a lifestyle that surrenders her freedom and forces her to be subservient to men.



I wonder if she'll get a job.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2004, 08:33:46 AM »
...She averaged 3.4 points and 2.3 rebounds per game last season.....


looks like they don't really need her.:rolleyes:
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2004, 09:42:06 AM »
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Update to this story: the point is moot.  Seems Armstrong didn't like having to choose and didn't like the media attention so she quit the team, thereby removing the controversy.

I wonder if she'll go full-core and live a lifestyle that surrenders her freedom and forces her to be subservient to men.



I wonder if she'll get a job.



lol, nail on the head gofaster
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2004, 10:46:13 AM »
If she follows the beliefs, she won't work..so her college education is wasted..therefore that scholarship she had..wasted..someone missed out on it for her to get it and then squander it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2004, 02:02:39 PM »
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If she follows the beliefs, she won't work..so her college education is wasted..therefore that scholarship she had..wasted..someone missed out on it for her to get it and then squander it.


in this contex squander means stole...:mad:

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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2004, 02:06:02 PM »
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in this contex squander means stole...:mad:


That is what I was implying:aok
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