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Offline Kweassa

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« on: September 19, 2004, 02:23:18 AM »
1. For those who does not have a sophisticated throttle system... can we have a key set that locks the RPM controls and throttle controls together?

 Like, "CTRL+L will lock the RPM control to correspond to throttle lever"..? This would be pretty cool option for people who'd like to interlink those two controls and reduce workload. Since the new fuel burn model I admit I've been using a lot of RPM controls in many situations.


2. Can we have a "bomb lock" key?

 In most fighter bombers, the bombs and rockets and etc ord. are something you have to consciously switch to - since secondary armament is always either a machine gun or a cannon. No worries there.

 However, in something like the Ju87 that carries just one bomb, a slip of the thumb may cause a frustrating result. There is no secondary armament in the form of guns, so the secondary fire always directly releases a bomb.

 If adding in another key is not desirable, then how about adding an  off" status between the cycling of secondary armament/ordnance?

 For instance a gamer is flyign a Ju87D with 1x 1800kg bomb. He is worried if he might slip his finger and lose the bomb. So, if the player wishes, even though the default is the "180" bomb state, he will press and cycle it to "OFF". If he wants to use the bomb, he will press again to cycle it back to "180" and use the 1800kg bomb. This seems like a simple thing to do..(I hope...)

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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2004, 07:34:04 AM »
You can map the RPM to the throttle axis now (to combine the two) within AH
« Last Edit: September 19, 2004, 07:38:04 AM by Tilt »
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2004, 08:54:23 PM »
How do you do that?

 I've tried it, except whenever I do that the RPM axis is opposite to the throttle axis - which means, if I raise throttle with the lever, the throttle goes up but the RPM goes down. When I lower the lever the throttle goes down but the RPM is adjusted up.

 How do you reverse it so the RPM levels correctly correspond with the throttle lever at the same time??

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« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2004, 08:38:54 AM »
Good points Kweassa.

If nothing else a "Master arm switch" that safety's the system could be implemented.

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« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2004, 08:43:57 AM »
On the bomb thing I agree..
I've had my thumb slip 1 or 2 times and drop that bad boy on the 87.:eek:  oooppssy:eek:

 I found it quite annoying after flying this particular slow bird halfway to a base.:)
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« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2004, 02:42:08 PM »
Side question:  What's the difference between throttle and rpm (in the game AH2)?  

I've just been controlling the throttle, and observed the rpm gauge varying accordingly, as one would expect given the definitions of the 2 terms.
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« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2004, 07:01:14 PM »
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How do you do that?

 I've tried it, except whenever I do that the RPM axis is opposite to the throttle axis - which means, if I raise throttle with the lever, the throttle goes up but the RPM goes down. When I lower the lever the throttle goes down but the RPM is adjusted up.

 How do you reverse it so the RPM levels correctly correspond with the throttle lever at the same time??


You have  tick box to invert the input...............its exactly how i have my rpm and throttle set
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2004, 07:20:24 PM »
For all the current 190s, throttle should be linked to rpm, and none of them should be allowed to operate alone.

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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2004, 12:18:15 PM »
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Side question:  What's the difference between throttle and rpm (in the game AH2)?  

I've just been controlling the throttle, and observed the rpm gauge varying accordingly, as one would expect given the definitions of the 2 terms.


Prop pitch varies rpm ( which will vary manifold pressure ),
Throttle varies manifold pressure ( which will vary rpm ),
this control is independent if the controls are unlinked.

It makes it easier to blow the engine up, if modelled correctly.  Most WWII aircraft are independent, some are linked.

Is it 'combat trim' that links them?  I tried it in the beginning, but stuck with the default to reduce cockpit load.

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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2004, 12:40:54 PM »
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Is it 'combat trim' that links them?  I tried it in the beginning, but stuck with the default to reduce cockpit load.


They are not linked in AH in default set up the RPM can be set by the +/- keys on your keypad.........

or as above you can map it to an analogue input (roller on a HOTAS) or map it with the throttle.

Plus side of mapping with throttle is that you have better fuel economy. Down side is that the prop feathers when you throttle back so it does not scrub speed in combat........ for this you have to leave throttle full on and switch the engine on and off (if you really want to go that far)
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2004, 12:47:12 PM »
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Prop pitch varies rpm ( which will vary manifold pressure )


Why does that happen (IRL, I mean)?

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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2004, 01:40:13 PM »
Changing the RPM changes the supercharge speed, hence less manifold pressure for the same throttle setting.


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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2004, 02:58:11 PM »
Got it.  But then, how is boost controlled?  I thought there would be a mechanism to regulate boost...like with a turbo.  So that, no matter what the rpm, the boost is always "too much", and is regulated to a max level.  How is SC boost regulated (or maybe it isn't)?

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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2004, 03:38:54 PM »
Dump valve/ waist gate. Thottle bascly just controls a butterfly valve at the manifold intake. Supercharge just runs at a constant speed per engine rpm, with a gear changes for high blower. Any excess just pushes out the spring loaded waist gait.

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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2004, 04:27:55 PM »
In that case, wouldn't it be true that for most of the useable RPM range, boost stays constant?  Just more gets dumped out at higher RPMs.