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Offline Engine

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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2004, 03:57:20 PM »
I wouldn't play this as setup now, for the reasons posted above.  Ludicrous matchup.

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2004, 04:13:04 PM »
Dang, Engine we're gonna miss ya.  I've not seen you in a Snapshot, but hate to think flying a Spit IX against a 190D is so ludicrous that it would keep you away.  

Is it the fact that it's a disputed aircraft for the month of that year, or that it's not a "fair" fight?

I thought you lads were bomber jockeys?  Should be used to 190D's?? ;)

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2004, 04:21:59 PM »
Well, I think you're still heavily buying into the Spitfire MA hype and AH1 reputation.  The Fw190D-9 should absolutely dominate the matchup you have suggested.  You've taken examples of the Mk IX and Fw190D from the opposite ends of their development paths and are throwing them at each other.

If I were to fly this I sure as heck wouldn't be in a Spitfire.


It isn't "disputed" anywhere except in you mind.  This matchup would never have happened.
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2004, 04:22:16 PM »
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Never would I argue with the LW experts, but there is resourced evidence that the 190D was being flown as the 0 and 1 series with the next series after the 1 being the 9 (numbers 2 through 8 were skipped) that was in the sky during the Summer of 1944, which is the time of this event.  I believe JG3 "Udet" Geschwader received the aircraft around the time you mentioned, but it would not be "fantasy" to imagine that other units would have had the aircraft and just not as celebrated.


The info I saw initially pointed to JG3 getting the aircraft so possibly we saw the same thing.

That was shot down quickly however. You know those Luftwaffe guys :)

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2004, 05:35:52 PM »
its a shame i was realy looking to a Snapshot since iv been kind of tired of the MA of late


but this match up i can find in the MA all day

plz ether give the RAF a Spit14 or take the D9 out and put in ether a A8 or A5

otherwise il just fly a Spit9 in the MA with all the 190D-9s there and il get my fix of
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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2004, 06:03:42 PM »
Well then....

Now that I have your opinions, your suggestion will be accepted and the FW190A5 is the LW aircraft that will go into the write-up.  See you all there Simshell, Guppy, Karnak, Engine et al.

Thanks for the feedback and now that being there is tied into the FW190A, we should have some splendid numbers.

As a CM for AH, it's my job to give you all what you want and I'm sure the numbers will back up your opinions tomorrow night.  See you all at 10ET at the SEA and thanks again.

Cheers.....

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2004, 06:07:47 PM »
Guppy35,

Thanks for all the feedback.  Very nice chatting with you.  Being an RAF type, I know those pesky LW types too well :)

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2004, 07:33:15 PM »
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Guppy35,

Thanks for all the feedback.  Very nice chatting with you.  Being an RAF type, I know those pesky LW types too well :)


LOL, it's kinda dangerous to even whisper "Spitfire" without starting a controversy.

It does appear that the work schedule will let me fly this thing tomorrow nite.  I haven't flown one before, but that 43-44 timeframe is the one I'm the most interested in as that's when the XII flew so I'll be there for a Spit :)

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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2004, 07:54:13 PM »
il try to get to the snapshot:)
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« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2004, 08:17:31 PM »
I'll try to make it as well, but I'll fly an Fw190.
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2004, 07:17:38 AM »
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Dang, Engine we're gonna miss ya.  I've not seen you in a Snapshot, but hate to think flying a Spit IX against a 190D is so ludicrous that it would keep you away.  
I'm so good you don't even know I'm there.

Will try to make it tonight.

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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2004, 10:47:57 PM »
Really enjoyed the Snapshot tonight Hening.  Managed to get Airbumba on my first run and then glided back safely into a vehicle base on the coast of England, out of fuel.

Second run we were way the heck up there at 35K and of course the fight dropped to the deck.  Got caught in a bunch of 190s, turning like mad.  Got one of the 68 guys before 68Falcon blew my wing off and into the Channel I went.

Great fun all around :)

Thanks for setting it up

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2004, 10:59:50 PM »
Dang it.  I thought it was at 9:00PM PST.

I showed up at 8:55PM PST only to find out it had happened at 7:00PM PST.

I'm really sorry about my screwup.
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« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2004, 08:35:46 AM »
Turned out to be a very nice Snapshot.  Thanks for coming Guppy.

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There was some very good flying on both sides. Controlled engagements and not just a major furball. The RCAF had to focus on fuel management and time engaged target along with the FW190s.

Thanks to all for coming out for this one

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« Reply #29 on: September 23, 2004, 08:04:19 PM »
I had a blast! Thanks Hening ,.

.....except for that Guppy guy.....;)  .
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