Author Topic: British Car Day / 2004 Bronte Provincial Park Oakville (Read 644 times)

flyingaround · « **Reply #15 on:** September 21, 2004, 12:17:41 PM »

Very cool. My dad LOVES brit. cars. He owns an AC Bristol, all decked out for racing, and an Austin Healey (I forget which one. 2nd rarest I think. The 1st one w/ a 6-cyl motor methnks)

Fun rides, and quite gorgeous.

Replicant · « **Reply #16 on:** September 21, 2004, 12:41:22 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
LOL Nexx! With the reliability of those Stags, I'd have thought you could make a career out of working on those and nothing else! They had a 3.0 V8 engine, which was notorious for having poor design for cylinder head cooling, and the heads would warp. Many owners exchanged the original engine for the Rover/Buick 3.5 V8 engine.

The Triumph 2.5PI engine was equally notorious for reliability problems. In standard tune in the TR6, it couldn't meet US emission control standards, which was probably why some detuning was done. Then Triumph brought out a new saloon, basically a carburated version of the 2.5.

As for the carbs of those days - SU were very reliable; you'd always get a first time start. Stromberg CD - had diaphragms which were prone to failure. Weber - I had a Weber twin choke progressive on a Cortina 2000E in the 70s. Good setup, but there was always a stutter at half throttle as the second barrel opened up. Ford was never able to tune that out.

Needless to say I got told about the unreliability of the Stag! Apparently 'half of the Vee' of the V8 engine was used in the TR7 and the other 'half of the Vee' was used in Volvo's.

The 2.5 P.I. was supposed to have problems with the crank shims. I think these were actually thrust shims for when the car accelerated under power. I believe that the shims would wear out quickly and the extra play on the crank would then cause it to crack or wear excessively. I can't remember to be precise, it was quite awhile ago!

Yeah, SUs were great to work with. Strombergs were awful, especially when setting the CO emissions. You'd have an allen key down the centre and any extra movement would change the settings or stall the car. Pain in the prettythang! The Austin Healey I worked on (US spec) had these carbs too and the diaphragms had rotted! Another pain!

Cortina 2000E... now that was a nice car!

SirLoin · « **Reply #17 on:** September 21, 2004, 12:50:00 PM »

Wish that was 10 years ago...20 Minutes from Bronte Park,coulda showed off my MG Midget..

beet1e · « **Reply #18 on:** September 21, 2004, 01:00:21 PM »

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Detuned is too kind...castrated is more like it.

We got 109hp...everyone else got 150hp.

And of course it had reliability problems...Lucas made the injection!

ROFL Crow! I knew there was a reason I favoured German cars and K-Jetronic.

Only 109bhp for the TR6? Hold on a sec... hp or bhp? The measurements here are done in bhp, and yes, 150bhp was the TR6 engine's rating. In the saloon car, I think it was less. But from 1974 (OPEC oil crisis) the TR6 got 125bhp in UK tune. The real castration came with the next model - the TR7. It had the four cylinder engine, 1.8 litres - as used in the Triumph Dolomite. Talk about lame duck.

Some pics from this year's Reading & Wokingham show

Here are those Stags

Flyingaround - I think this was a Bristol

These next two are Vauxhalls (later bought by GM) from the 1950s. Back then, they liked to make their cars look American. How did they succeed? You be the judge.

Oil leaks? I'll give you oil leaks - LOL - This is a P4 Rover 105R. I had never heard of this variant until this month when I took the picture. My father had had a couple like this - a Rover 90 and a Rover 100... and they positively exuded oil on to the garage floor - drove my Mum mad. She made dad put down oil pans filled with sawdust.

In the 1950s, Ford as well as Vauxhall gave their cars an American flavour. This is a Consul convertible, c1960.

My favourite car at the show: 1968 Daimler 2.5 V8 - aka "Daimler Jaguar". My father had one of these, and my greatest regret is that I wasn't old enough to drive in the time he had it (1967-1970).

Replicant · « **Reply #19 on:** September 21, 2004, 02:09:22 PM »

Were there any Sunbeam Tigers or Alpines?

crowMAW · « **Reply #20 on:** September 21, 2004, 02:13:53 PM »

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Originally posted by beet1e
Only 109bhp for the TR6? Hold on a sec... hp or bhp? The measurements here are done in bhp, and yes, 150bhp was the TR6 engine's rating.

Yup...only 109bhp for the early US spec 6-cyl. After '72 more smog restrictions dropped it to 104bhp.

Great pics! Got any more of the Jensen Interceptor next to the 2nd Vauxhall? I love those cars. I almost bought one many years ago, but decided to buy my first new car instead (Miata). I loved the interior on the Interceptor, especially the back seat area.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #21 on:** September 21, 2004, 02:41:54 PM »

Where are all the trailers they came in?

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #22 on:** September 21, 2004, 02:53:27 PM »

Not much of a Healey or Trimph fan, but this bucket is a jewel!

I am looking for those 60s conv jaguars to buy one for my dad's retirement. Something like that

ty for those pics, always great to see:D

Replicant · « **Reply #23 on:** September 21, 2004, 03:02:20 PM »

Frenchy, that first one a Morgan? I had a go in a later Morgan V8 and it went like a rocket! Crazy!

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #24 on:** September 21, 2004, 03:17:43 PM »

I think it's a morgan, but I am far from knowing anything in Brit cars. Maybe a 50 something, or the 68 repro? Morgans always have the "roman cathedral entrance door" grill shape.

midnight Target · « **Reply #25 on:** September 21, 2004, 03:48:27 PM »

TR6 was my dream car in high school. Loved the looks and the sound of those things. German sports cars may be faster and handle better, but dangit, they sound like crap!

crowMAW · « **Reply #26 on:** September 21, 2004, 05:38:54 PM »

Yeah, that is a Morgan...has a wood frame, so gotta watch for termites. Seriously!

The Jag is an XK-150DHC (drop head coupe). I restored a '58 XK-150FHC (fixed head coupe...not a convertable...you Brits come up with some wierd names for things) for my dad back in the '80s. He kept it for a few years and then got a hell of an offer for it from a guy in the Netherlands who shipped over.

beet1e · « **Reply #27 on:** September 21, 2004, 05:50:00 PM »

Sorry, no pics of the Jensen or any Sunbeam Alpines.

Torque · « **Reply #28 on:** September 21, 2004, 08:42:50 PM »

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If you ever want to go for a flight let me know. I keep the plane at Buttonville in the summer but own a hanger at Collingwood where I will keep in in the winter. I am tied up for the next few weeks but after that I have some free weekends.

I love to go to all the fly in's in the summer where you fly to Haliburton or Hanover or where ever and grab a hotdog and look at all the other planes for a bit then take off and head back.

Do you fly?

Hey Habu, i was kidding around as well.

Yeah sounds like fun i'll bring my camera gear, but hey i thought you lived in Ottawa?

I was hoping to drop brown paper bags filled with dog pooh on Hull, damn.

Torque · « **Reply #29 on:** September 21, 2004, 09:00:52 PM »

Hey Beet1e any of these look familiar?

Bugatti parked outside.