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Offline Vudak

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« Reply #30 on: September 21, 2004, 10:48:51 PM »
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Those who excel in the dueling ladders tend to do well in the arenas when they play for rank.  I do agree, however, that situational awareness plays a very important part in MA success.

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Ya, any player I've run into in the DA that's smacked me around has smacked me around in the MA too.  

I joined the ladder because, dueling is fun, it's the only place where you can get a fair fight around here, and I figure any tips or tricks I pick up in a duel will be applicable to some MA situation.
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« Reply #31 on: September 21, 2004, 10:58:48 PM »
now go finalize it TW9 :)
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« Reply #32 on: September 21, 2004, 11:00:33 PM »
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Of course, some might try the duelling ladders as a way of having fun, and there can be no denying the ego stroking properties of such an enterprise, these perhaps being the principal reason for why some of the participants are there in the first place.
 



Why do you equate fun with ego stroking?


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« Reply #33 on: September 21, 2004, 11:03:36 PM »
I don't mean SA as in always watching the other aircraft. I mean SA as in being aware of your surroundings, location/alt of other hostiles, fuel - ammo. You can fixate on a single target and pay nothing else any attention.

Watching the plane you're currently engaged with isn't SA, SA is watching the ones you aren't...as well as other listed and unlisted things.
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« Reply #34 on: September 21, 2004, 11:06:08 PM »
DMF: Most people who play AH have also played WB and vice verse.
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« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2004, 11:27:16 PM »
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I don't mean SA as in always watching the other aircraft. I mean SA as in being aware of your surroundings, location/alt of other hostiles, fuel - ammo. You can fixate on a single target and pay nothing else any attention.

Watching the plane you're currently engaged with isn't SA, SA is watching the ones you aren't...as well as other listed and unlisted things.


noooooooooo kidding mr-i-only-play-h2h....

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« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2004, 11:57:57 PM »
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DMF: Most people who play AH have also played WB and vice verse.


I'd say that most of the people who fly AH have never flown WB.  Most now hail from one form or another of Air Warrior if anything.

I did just fine hopping into Warbirds with no experience in it at all.  Mostly you have to adjust to different stall characteristics and general handling and aim discrepencies, but ACM is ACM no matter where you fly.

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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2004, 12:18:23 AM »
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Originally posted by AWRaid
I don't mean SA as in always watching the other aircraft. I mean SA as in being aware of your surroundings, location/alt of other hostiles, fuel - ammo. You can fixate on a single target and pay nothing else any attention.

Watching the plane you're currently engaged with isn't SA, SA is watching the ones you aren't...as well as other listed and unlisted things.



ok Raid........just a different view of opinions

if you are going to be coming to the MA,  CT, DA and need any help shoot me or any of the other Trainers an email  we be glad to help , even if it's only being a target

from the way you described the SA quote above, I find  it very hard to believe your  F16 pilot  post now........

really though, you can do a search on the internet that will give you most impressive write ups on SA, anything from official military documents to all the different online flight simulations.....
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2004, 03:53:09 AM »
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from the way you described the SA quote above, I find  it very hard to believe your  F16 pilot  post now........

really though, you can do a search on the internet that will give you most impressive write ups on SA, anything from official military documents to all the different online flight simulations.....


and lag displacement doesn't mean yanking your modem cord.

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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2004, 04:06:13 AM »
I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying TC.


I'm not saying not to watch the enemy you're fighting? I'm also not saying that isn't SA. What I was saying is that isn't ALL what SA is not even what MOST of SA is. SA in modern combat situations or even training is much different than SA in a ww2 era flight sim.

Maybe tomorrow I'll go into more detail but for now I am going to bed.
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« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2004, 09:41:08 AM »
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I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying TC.
you probably right Raid,  I do read into things differently sometimes

I'm not saying not to watch the enemy you're fighting? I'm also not saying that isn't SA. What I was saying is that isn't ALL what SA is not even what MOST of SA is. SA in modern combat situations or even training is much different than SA in a ww2 era flight sim.
 I agree, as far as you only dealing with 1 chance to live in Real Life, verses the way the game lets one have the luxury to continously get kilt with out care , etc..

Maybe tomorrow I'll go into more detail but for now I am going to bed.
No worries Raid, I stayed up to late myself and didn't give you the benefit of the doubt
 

The training offer was not meant to slight you Raid, it was genuine :)
"When one considers just what they should say to a new pilot who is logging in Aces High, the mind becomes confused in the complex maze of info it is necessary for the new player to know. All of it is important; most of it vital; and all of it just too much for one brain to absorb in 1-2 lessons" TC

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« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2004, 10:09:34 AM »
One of the best reasons for joining the dueling ladder is its fun, and you'll probably have a good time dueling win or lose. Most are good sports and you might make some more friends.

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2004, 02:29:35 PM »
Awraid where are..or were ..u stationed?  Im former f-16 avi. tech. Worked all training bases so i got to see the best of our rookie pilots breakin planes left and right:P  What block do you fly?

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« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2004, 03:09:09 PM »
They are secret missions Jaxxo. Flown over Iraqu and places like dat. :D

So he cant tell you. :p
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« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2004, 03:30:47 PM »
Can anyone point out a person who is good a dueling but sucks in the MA?