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Offline SOB

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Cat Stevens, Threat to National Security?
« on: September 22, 2004, 01:24:31 AM »
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/US/09/22/plane.diverted.stevens/

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Cat Stevens diverts plane

From Homeland Security Correspondent Jeanne Meserve
Wednesday, September 22, 2004 Posted: 0507 GMT (1307 HKT)

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Singer Yusuf Islam, formerly known as Cat Stevens, was taken off a diverted United Air Lines flight from London to Washington after his Muslim name turned up on a "watch list" designed to keep terrorists from boarding flights, a Transportation Security Administration spokesman has said.

The 56-year-old Islam took that name when he became a Muslim in the 1970s.

An FBI spokeswoman told CNN the singer's name was only matched to the watch list after the plane had departed.

Islam, a British citizen, was being held in Bangor, Maine after Flight 919 was ordered to land there Tuesday afternoon.

He will be deported back to London on Wednesday, according to the TSA.

A government official said Islam was on the watch list because of "known associations and financial support to organizations believed to be aiding terrorism."

According to U.S. officials, he is an active supporter of Muslim charities.

One administration official said the singer had been in the United States as recently as May, and was a recent addition to the list.

The rest of the passengers were screened and continued on to Washington's Dulles International Airport after Islam was taken off the flight.

"They said, Get ready to land,' and then they said 'Welcome to Bangor.' And we though they were joking," one woman passenger said.

"We had no idea we'd been diverted."

The Boeing 747 had about 280 passengers and crew on board when it took off from London's Heathrow Airport, United Air Lines spokesman Jeff Green said.

The plane was met by federal agents on arrival in Bangor, where it was on the ground for about four hours before being allowed to depart, Green said.

It landed at Dulles nearly six hours behind schedule.

According to a TSA spokesman, Islam made it through pre-screening by United Air Lines and was given a boarding pass.

But after the flight took off, the U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency discovered his name was on a watch list.

The TSA was notified and requested that the plane be diverted to the nearest airport.

As Cat Stevens, Islam had a string of folk-rock hits in the 1960s and early 1970s, including "Peace Train," "Morning has Broken" and "Wild World."

He dropped out of the music business for more than a decade after converting to Islam, but returned to the recording studio periodically during the 1990s.
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Re: Cat Stevens, Threat to National Security?
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2004, 01:27:16 AM »
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According to U.S. officials, he is an active supporter of Muslim charities.



Um... isn't this one of the religious requirements? Hell... with criteria like this, we could just jail all of them.
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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2004, 01:46:07 AM »
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... with criteria like this, we could just jail all of them.


"Jail 'em all and let Ashcroft sort it out"

Wait... that's not how the saying goes.... is it?
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2004, 01:50:51 AM »
Yusuf Islam has pretty clear ties to extremism, especially with the Taliban, he even made religius chants as fundraisers them and contributed to charities that fron for terror groups.

Too bad he turned out this way, I like his old hippy songs.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2004, 01:55:47 AM »
No sympathy for that guy from me.

He pledged a good chunk of money for the killing of Rushdie.

What a Tard he ended up becoming.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2004, 02:02:12 AM »
almost forgot...

SOB:

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« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2004, 02:18:53 AM »
oo baby, baby it's a wild world.........



sorry, couldn't resist.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2004, 02:41:44 AM »
I'm glad he didn't get to stay here, except for long enough to get on a plane back were he came from.  It's a wild world indeed.   It's guys like him that give the 60s and 70s a bad name.





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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2004, 04:12:39 AM »
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Yusuf Islam has pretty clear ties to extremism, especially with the Taliban, he even made religius chants as fundraisers them and contributed to charities that fron for terror groups.

Too bad he turned out this way, I like his old hippy songs.



Grun I was wondering about his affiliation with extremism. Just because you write some good songs doesnt make you a good citizen:(
Have you any links ?
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2004, 04:29:23 AM »
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According to U.S. officials, he is an active supporter of Muslim charities.


Is that the best they can come up with? Giving to charity is a pillar of Islam, a fundamental tenet that all followers must abide by.

I love how the 'Homeland Security' correspondant clearly hasn't applied one iota of critical thought to that article. A 13 year old could have told her the above quote is inane.

However, if he is a supported of extremist organisations advocating violence, he gets little sympathy from me.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2004, 06:18:01 AM »
Why didn't that Boeing land to the Guantanamo?
Just throw him to the concentration camp with other suspects and throw the key away; Why bother to put them on the court :aok

Damn your juridical system rocks! :rofl
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2004, 06:46:28 AM »
It becomes even smarter if someone has a same name as someone whos 'suspected' of 'suspicious' activities and therefore put on the no-fly list.
Even more so if theres more people with the same name.... yay!


I don't get it though.. why are people banned from flights, without their knowledge and without any kind of court ruling?

Doesn't sound like freedom to me..  I'd be very damn pissed off I would suddenly find out I'm not allowed to board a plane and nobody has told about it to me, let alone having had a chance to defend myself against this 'punishment'.


No-fly decisions made without any law suits or so, undeclared detainees, torturing of detainees, detainees held for years without charges or chance to meet a lawyer... and so on..

Does anyone understand where this kind of actions are leading to?
Facism.
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2004, 07:02:48 AM »
:rolleyes:
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2004, 07:09:13 AM »
maybe this admin just doesn't like/get Buddha and the Chocolate Box :)

Shame, I like his old music and respect his freedom of religion but trust this admin for their decision to turn his plane around
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« Reply #14 on: September 22, 2004, 07:29:54 AM »
I forget which group he made large donations to, but he did make several large and very public donations to a group that has very close ties to terrorism. I read about it several months back, long before he was denied entry this week.

The U.S. is PROSECUTING people who make donations to known terrorist supporters, so simply sending him away seems charitable, they did not detain him and send him to prison.
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