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« Reply #30 on: September 23, 2004, 07:51:24 PM »
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i thought the U.N. didnt matter.

theyve been thumbing there nose at the US for more than 12 years, remember there a communist country thats within modified car driving distance of the US.


Well then I think they should all get in their cars and drive the distance and try to blow us up

Maybe not. The ones in old VW bugs just might make it LMAOI
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« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2004, 08:10:38 PM »
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im sorry Ripsnort

in counthry where biliards are spend for intelingence and military
in country who first send man to the moon
in country where you can buy whatever you like
in country with most advenced technologies

how the hell president of such a country can have wrong information?
arent he was choosed to keep eye on every thread for US citizens?
arent he is responcibly for choose staff who will be right for inteligence job?

its good for him to make somone else responcible for all this mess


this whole "Bush lied" claim is so lame already its rediculous. Makes for  propoganda but thats about it.

Lets not forget that Kerry along with a host of others being a member of the senate intellegence commitee had access to alot of the same info that Bush did.

Oh and So did Clinton. and a whole host of other Democrat's who while Clinton was in office were all Gung ho about going into Iraq.
Point is. if Bush lied. Then they ALL lied because they ALL said he had WMDs and he needed to be dealt with.
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« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2004, 08:12:36 PM »
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Comparing Cuba to Iraq. Thats quality!  When do you graduate from Berkeley U?


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wow...we are getting sarcastic...i wasnt comparing cuba to iraq, i was just pointing out that if your gonna go on the war path against evil dictators, you might as well clean up your back yard first (or second in this case)

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« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2004, 09:01:09 PM »
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Saddam complied with them,



WRONG..  try again, buckwheat.
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« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2004, 09:03:09 PM »
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If he went out into the street the Iraqis would shoot him.


By this do you mean the general populace?  You're easy to fool if you believe what they show on the news in Iraq as far as violence and protests are the general populace and not the minority.  then again, you've never done or said anything on these boards to make me believe you aren't a complete jakkasse.
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« Reply #35 on: September 23, 2004, 09:50:41 PM »
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
this whole "Bush lied" claim is so lame already its rediculous. Makes for  propoganda but thats about it.

Lets not forget that Kerry along with a host of others being a member of the senate intellegence commitee had access to alot of the same info that Bush did.

Oh and So did Clinton. and a whole host of other Democrat's who while Clinton was in office were all Gung ho about going into Iraq.
Point is. if Bush lied. Then they ALL lied because they ALL said he had WMDs and he needed to be dealt with.


yes it is propaganda, i was belive in words they said on this UN session where Powell show horrible stuff used to kill people.
But now i realise this kind of devices you can find in every country who care about thier own security.
Are you denny to anyone be ready to defence? im not
Bush goverment convince us Iraq is threat for all world . He show him as secound hitler and that was not true.
Most of countries have WMD since ww1!!
If we like to take care of all dictators on the world, US carriers wil never back to homeports. But strangeness of politics is,  one mass murders and dictators are "friendly" for us, other are threat and need to be bring back to good way ;)
Bush convince us saddam cooperate with terrorists, wichone was not true. He did not support official any terrrorist group. On his possition and with all the time eyes on him , he need to be stupid to play with them. Hard to call somone stupid if he held in one hand whole nation by 30 years.

So, all what i heore lately in news is "good we get ride of Saddam". Yes its good we get ride of one of SOB but, on his place come couple more. Who murder allien civilians, who hunt for our troops. We become more evil for muslim world, we are more fear about tommorow.
I will say Clinton way to bomb iraq time to time was much healther for our troops and our pockets.
Its not first gov and not last established by US special services.
But we need to remember, noone of them survive long time or not turn against US after some time.


Please not forget its happend on Bush watch, not on Clinton and not on Kerry.

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« Reply #36 on: September 23, 2004, 10:03:57 PM »
To be honest, what has been gained since invading Iraq.

Saddams out of power, great, terrorism hasn't stopped.

No WMDs.

Gas is STILL expensive.

No Osama.

U.S. Soldiers and innocent civillians STILL dying.

Soldiers going past their tour of duty time, not being able to go home to their families.



I just want to hear one good thing since we got into Iraq.

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« Reply #37 on: September 23, 2004, 10:40:01 PM »
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To be honest, what has been gained since invading Iraq.

Saddams out of power, great, terrorism hasn't stopped.

No WMDs.

Gas is STILL expensive.

No Osama.

U.S. Soldiers and innocent civillians STILL dying.

Soldiers going past their tour of duty time, not being able to go home to their families.



I just want to hear one good thing since we got into Iraq.

"Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended." - President George W. Bush 1 May 2003
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« Reply #38 on: September 23, 2004, 10:56:01 PM »
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"Admiral Kelly, Captain Card, officers and sailors of the USS Abraham Lincoln, my fellow Americans: Major combat operations in Iraq have ended." - President George W. Bush 1 May 2003



What he should have put in at the end of his quote:

".....for the rest of the day."

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« Reply #39 on: September 23, 2004, 10:58:06 PM »
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No, then your a fool that got duped.

Theres no doubt that Bush had a vandetta against Saddam and wanted the war. He could indeed have ordered "evidence" to surface.

Wag the dog.


Why O why do i have to keep posting this.
they all belived he had WMD

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destrution and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
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« Reply #40 on: September 23, 2004, 11:46:44 PM »
I'm sure the discovery of empty septic tanks and rat poison as well as having a bearded Saddam out of power is well worth the amount of casulties in both military and civillian that has been suffered in Iraq since arriving there.

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« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2004, 11:53:47 PM »
More on the excuse presidency... never wrong... never responsible... never to blame...


It's Clinton's fault. :rolleyes:
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2004, 12:35:34 AM »
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Originally posted by ramzey
Bush goverment convince us Iraq is threat for all world .

 He show him as secound hitler and that was not true.
Most of countries have WMD since ww1!!

Bush convince us saddam cooperate with terrorists, wichone was not true. He did not support official any terrrorist group. On his possition and with all the time eyes on him , he need to be stupid to play with them.
 Hard to call somone stupid if he held in one hand whole nation by 30 years.
Please not forget its happend on Bush watch, not on Clinton and not on Kerry.


IT was.

He was ( I Dont remember any other dictator Gassing his own people by the tens of thousands)

There arent too many Dictators that "officially" support terrorist groups. ESPECIALLY with US warplanes flying overhead

Your right it did happen on Bush's watch.
Only because Clinton as was typical of Clinton lacked the grapes to do anything about it.
Kerry is a non issue as he hasnt done anything about anything since nam and isnt yet in the position to have had a "watch"
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« Reply #43 on: September 24, 2004, 12:42:48 AM »
"Why O why do i have to keep posting this.
they all belived he had WMD "

JBA, thank you. I've been looking for that.
Someone I know IRL is about to eat her words in a major way
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« Reply #44 on: September 24, 2004, 04:50:11 AM »
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He was ( I Dont remember any other dictator Gassing his own people by the tens of thousands)

There arent too many Dictators that "officially" support terrorist groups. ESPECIALLY with US warplanes flying overhead

Your right it did happen on Bush's watch.
Only because Clinton as was typical of Clinton lacked the grapes to do anything about it.
Kerry is a non issue as he hasnt done anything about anything since nam and isnt yet in the position to have had a "watch"

If anybody lacked the grapes, it was GHWB. He pulled up short and created this whole mess. He could have supported the Iraqi people that wanted Saddam out in 1991. Instead he let Saddam kill 50,000 of them and force another 1 million to become refugees. All of this while Bush was telling them to rise up and defeat Saddam. They begged for help and Big Daddy Bush did squat.

Blame that on Clinton.
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