Allawi said “Thank you America”

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by rpm371
If anybody lacked the grapes, it was GHWB. He pulled up short and created this whole mess. He could have supported the Iraqi people that wanted Saddam out in 1991. Instead he let Saddam kill 50,000 of them and force another 1 million to become refugees. All of this while Bush was telling them to rise up and defeat Saddam. They begged for help and Big Daddy Bush did squat.

On THAT point you and I are in total agreement.
Thought so then. Still think so now.

I understand why he did it. I just dont agree with it

[Maniac]

Originally posted by JBA
Why O why do i have to keep posting this.
they all belived he had WMD

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destrution and palaces for his cronies."
Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

Thats only quotes from Americans

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Maniac
Thats only quotes from Americans

thats cause we're the only country that matters

[Mighty1]

Is it a full moon out or what?

All the liberal nutcases are out ranting their normal BS "Bush lied Bush is evil Bush is a moron  Kerry is good Clinton is a GOD".

I'm getting tired of hearing the same lies(or in some of your cases deluded truths) and mis-information that are debunked over and over.

Man listening to you guys would make the Pope want to commit suicide!

[Torque]

Originally posted by DREDIOCK


He was ( I Dont remember any other dictator Gassing his own people by the tens of thousands)

"

And during the Anfal Campaign Saddam's biggest ally was Reagan.

Btw the only country to date that has been condemned by the World Court for international terrorism is?

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Mighty1
Is it a full moon out or what?

All the liberal nutcases are out ranting their normal BS "Bush lied Bush is evil Bush is a moron  Kerry is good Clinton is a GOD".

I'm getting tired of hearing the same lies(or in some of your cases deluded truths) and mis-information that are debunked over and over.

Man listening to you guys would make the Pope want to commit suicide!

Who is saying that Kerry is good?

[skuzzywho]

Stop defending Saddam, his country is the HQ for terrorist. Remember, the ones that crashes two planes in the world trade center towers and murdered a few thousand people?

Bush did the right thing by invading Iraq, WMD or not he crippled the terrorist HQs. Pull the troops out of Iraq and fuel the terrorist that already, and still live in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Americans are naive.

[CyranoAH]

I don't know about you guys, but I'm voting Conan O'Brien.

Well, he's not running for president, but I can't vote anyway, so there

Daniel

[Steve]

Americans are naive.

Blow me.

[RTSigma]

Crippled terrorist HQs?!? Tell that to the families of soldiers and civillians that either get kidnapped or blown up in suicide attacks.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by RTSigma
Crippled terrorist HQs?!? Tell that to the families of soldiers and civillians that either get kidnapped or blown up in suicide attacks.

When was the last time you had an Al Qaeda attack in Homewood, IL?

[AKS\/\/ulfe]

I have a rock that keeps panthers away.

Haven't ever seen any panthers.
-SW

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
If you are passed bad information and you act on it, you are a liar?

Many times he stated probabilities about WMD as definates. The US intelligence services qualified their analysis of Iraq as such.

Bush took that info and said Iraq had WMD, not Iraq probably had WMD. That's misleading and a lie. He also said that two possible mobile WMD labs were WMD. No only would those labs have not been WMD, but they turned out not to be WMD labs at all.


Rip, if you told me that you probably were going to the con, and I then told someone else that you definately were going to the con, would you consider that to be the truth, or a lie?

[NUKE]

Originally posted by Thrawn

Rip, if you told me that you probably were going to the con, and I then told someone else that you definately were going to the con, would you consider that to be the truth, or a lie?

What if everyone, all the experts you could find,  told you that your house was going to collapse  and told you to move out or you might die.

You tell your family that you have to move because the house was going to collapse. You move out of your house and your house never falls. Would you have lied to your family?

[Thrawn]

Originally posted by NUKE
What if everyone, all the experts you could find,  told you that your house was going to collapse  and told you to move out or you might die.

Analogy breaks down.  The experts didn't say, "Your house is going to collapse.".  


They said, "Based on our previsous infomation it's probable your house has terminites.".


Then Bush said, "The house is going to collapse.".  

which = lie