F4U1C needs to be removed

[Wingnut_0]

 

Originally posted by flakbait:
I was flying around offline, intentionally spinning aircraft.

Wish I found it as easy as you.  Even if I pull out of a spin quickly I'm very vulnerable for several seconds until I build up speed not to stall again.  And I see ppl still have E after spins...amazes me personally.

The 109's (I can't do it regularly in any other plane) have a habit in my experience of going into flat spins.  9 out of 10 spins I get into by accident are flat spins...and I'm usually screwed after that.

Wingnut

[Fishu]

 

Originally posted by indian:
Should have been at the con Pyro had rounds from the 20mm there and the hispano's were much beefier so they would have a more powerful punch.

Yea yea.. and 37mm looks more beefier too

[Yeager]

Hi hooligan  

I think what I would like is for HTC to take a good, long and hard look at the F4U1C just to make sure its matching up to their high standards.  The guns are operating fine IMO.
If Pyro comes back and says the F4U1C does what they want then Im justifiably squelched
and will go back into the background noise from which I came.........

FWIW, N1Ks havent bothered me but I dont think I have many kills on them.

Yo HangTime <S>

Yeager

[Vulcan]

I'm with Yeager... and its not just cos hes got a cute butt.

The C-Hawg and N1ki are two freaks. I've seen some wierd bellybutton stuff from these planes.

What I find wierd is its harder to fight a dweeb in a C-Hawg than an experienced/good pilot. Simply because the dweebs will do wierd sh*t and take pot shots from D1.x - spraying away and eventually landing that magic BB from d1.2 that tears ur plane apart. IE sacrifice all advantage for a cheap shot.

Fighting guys like Torque etc they tend to fight like they don't have magic laser cannons and fight to keep a good position.

I think thats the problem, N1ki's and C-Hawgs 8 out of 10 times take a cheap shot that would normally see any other plane dead. N1ki's ain't so bad as their guns don't seem to be the laser cannons the hawg uses.

[Citabria]

I've decided not to fly the F4u1c at all this tour. not because its dweeby or uber or what have you. I'd just rather fly the F4u1d when in the mood to fly a corsair as its got those 6 50cals used by thousands of f4u's in combat that scored thousands of kills. when I want to fly a 4 20mm hispano armed monster I fly the typhoon.

the f4u1c is just a cross dressing drag queen of a typhoon with better high alt performance and larger amunition load.

I dont think the f4u1c needs removing but I do think it steals the spotlight from the typhoon in the air to ground department.

no justification to remove it though. just add a 6 50cal armed f4u-4  

[GRUNHERZ]

I wonder if a good compromise would be to use the chog FM on the dhog and let it be the only corsair in AH.

[Drex]

It is a perk plane.  You have all earned it.
 

Drex

[Swager]

After getting shot down by a F4U-C, a pilot from JG2 took up a C-Hog in order to "get revenge"!  He flew across the mountains to A22 and racked up 4 kills without breaking a sweat.

He kept saying over RW, "This thing is amazing!"  He just aimed at an enemy plane, pulled the trigger, and BOOM! He was laughing the entire time!!

I dont know if it is so-called "uber". I know when I see one coming I get out of it's way.  My rule is, do not get within +/-45 degrees of it's nose or you're gona die.  I've seen F4U's with no lead on me, and the angle increasing, blow off my wing with one burst.  
Just too many strange things!!  

The F4Us tonite acted pretty good, but once in awhile I see some strange crap with the F4U.

That's all from me!  Have a nice day!!  

[Fishu]

I have been actually attacking on planes with half wing  
I've also killed couple tanks with both wingtips missing  

[GRUNHERZ]

Hi

I flew the chog a lot last tour and my favorite kills were the ones with half a wing. I remember this one sortie where I had 5 or 6 kills, all but one of which was without a wing. Anyhow its too damn easy to kill in plus it really does encourage dweebish HO and run behavior cuz theyll just weigh the odds and figure that its in their favor to HO rather than work for a tail shot.  I wonder what would happend if we flew 1 tour without the chog? Would people cancel their accounts and quit in disgust?
How bout it HTC, next tour no chog, just to see what happends? Please?

thanks GRUNHERZ

[hazed-]

I hope my opinion is as valued to htc as any customer and ive got to say i agree whole heartedly with yeager
no other plane has got me so annoyed.I have flown the f4c every now and again after being killed by one in a situation where i think 'no way could a plane do that' and i angrily go to test it..each time ive killed 4 or so with a few pings on each kill...i felt they were cheap kills and extremly easy.
I CHOOSE not to fly this dweeb crate and i would prefer not to fight them but i wont demand they be removed.not my call but my vote would be BURN IT  

[Minotaur]

I have seen some weird plane wobbling and wobbling, enough so that I thought that they had spun out.  

What I found out is that they really had not spun out, but the FE fooled me.  For some reason at times planes go into a very fast gyration or wobble.  I am not sure how or what causes it, but I have found that many times they are not spun out.  

The tricky part is that you can't tell the difference.

RBNN;

I am glad that you took my remark good naturedly as I intended it to be.  If you have taken offense please accept my apology.

That is my pat response to those non-ACM hide behind my big bad guns chog drivers.  Did the man or the machine beat me?  With a HO like that, it was the machine.

But...

In all honesty, it was actually a poorly timed lead turn on my part that led me to my doom.  However, I did notice that you made no attempt to avoid HO, thererfore "HO dweeb".  

If you do it, you wear it.

Salute!  

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Mino
The Wrecking Crew

"Anyway, more golf..."
Humble

[-duma-]

 

Originally posted by Hangtime:

Yah; it's a tuff plane. In the hands of a pilot like DMF; Torque and Duma, it's a very very lethal airplane.

I don't understand what the observed diffrences are between the 1c and the 1d. Ain't they both the same plane FM wize?

Thanks for the compliment Hang, but I don't think I've flown the 1C once since the Tiffy came out   The 1D is truly fantastic in the new version though.

I'm not sure about the difference between the 1C and 1D, can't say I've had much trouble dogfighting with Cs in H2H. (Against pretty experienced pilots too)

[tshred]

LOL Swager, I did the same thing, but with a N1K couple days ago. I got so annoyed with all the N1K's I decided to fight fire with fire. I've hardly ever flown it since it was introduced because I feel it is to easy a plane and requires no skill whatsoever to get kills in (like the Spit), and I proved that to myself the other day again. Disclaimer-The previous statement is nothing more than my opinion!

Since 1.04 I've been struggling getting kills in my P38, first it was the 1C, then with 1.04 patch 4 it was the N1K. Couldn't take it anymore the other day and jumped in a N1K, first time in a couple tours. I proceeded to rack up 4 kills and hadn't even used half my ammo, coulda rtb'd, but I was in 'quake' mode and finally got bounced from hi 6 while lining up my 5th victim in a furball. Now I have been recommending the N1K to any new commer to the arena who asks what a good plane is to start with. Anyone can kill in it, it requires no skill what so ever to fight in IMHO. It's a plane for 'scorepotatos' and new 'sticks'. I mean no disrespect to the people who regularly fly it or to people who fly their own 'country' iron. But it has definately taken over from the Spit and Zero as a 'guaranteed' killer with no real weaknesses.

As for the orginal post by Yeager, I agree, I don't think it should have been introduced to the arena masses, very few actually were made and seen combat, and therefore I believe it should be a "Perk Plane" (1C).

Since the boost to the N1K, they (1C) haven't bothered me as much anymore, and I try to have major alt (20k min) before any engagement these days. My amount of enjoyment in the MA has gradually been decreasing since 1.04, and if it wasn't for the Med League I'd take a step back for a bit like humble did. Pre 1.04 I spent most of my time on jabo and ground vehicle missions having a blast, but post 1.04 I've just been struggling to relearn how to fight and survive in my P38 in the MA, I don't have time for anything else yet!

Real men fly the biggest fighter target in the sky with no fear!   Oh yeah, and an extra engine to get you home when you get to cocky LOL.

ts

[Vermillion]

 

Again:
The F4U1C has a generously flawed FM and needs to be reworked ASAP.

What is flawed? How is it flawed? How much is it off? How is it generously flawed???

Tell me the guns are powerful, and I will agree with you. But they should be. And anything in this game with 4 x 20mm cannons on it are damn lethal. The -1C, Typhoon, N1K2, or the Fw190A8 will all shred you with a single burst inside of 400 yards.

Hell, even a Spitfire with only 2 cannons will disable my aircraft in a single burst if I get hit by it.

But complaints about the FM of the -1C without some kind of numbers, proof or other
supporting data, is just that. Complaints. Complaints that are devolving into constant whines.

If the FM is so generously flawed, it should be pretty damn easy to prove shouldn't it?

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Vermillion
**MOL**, Men of Leisure