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Offline Drunky

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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2004, 11:29:13 PM »
"I will not tolerate any racist, sexist, and/or heterosexist comments in my class"

Isn't that an oxymoron?

Sexist and heterosexist?

Is heterosexist a word or do only smart people who teach college use that word?
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2004, 12:54:08 AM »
You know I just can't buy the idea that we white males are being discriminated against . It's BS of the highest order.  Look around you, who owns everything, runs everything, has the most money?

Yes, white males.  Not all of us of course.    But the good old white males pretty much  control the world.

It always makes me laugh when I read stuff like that.

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« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2004, 01:49:48 AM »
Old white males own alot.

Younger ones do not and are usually subject to the "Get a job at McDonalds" line.

You want to hear racist? Here at school there are two pagaents. Miss EIU and Miss Black EIU.
African American women are allowed to participate in both pagaents and have the possibility of winning both while non-african american women can only participate in just Miss EIU.

Having a Miss White EIU was deemed racist.

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« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2004, 02:25:08 AM »
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Of course this is normal for IU so no one was too suprised when she didn't get into trouble for it.


Don't they make porn movies there?

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2004, 02:28:15 AM »
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You know I just can't buy the idea that we white males are being discriminated against . It's BS of the highest order.  Look around you, who owns everything, runs everything, has the most money?

Yes, white males.  Not all of us of course.    But the good old white males pretty much  control the world.

It always makes me laugh when I read stuff like that.



Just look around and see who gets preferential treatment for jobs, scholarships, college admission, and any number of other things. Look around and see who can have organizations that can exclude other races and the opposite sex and who cannot. Over here, the courts will force a group of white males to let anyone in. They will not force a group of females, or any other race besides the white race, to allow members that they wish to exclude. You can sue your way into any exclusive white male organization, or into having it destroyed. If you believe that white males have it all, you are sadly deluded.
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2004, 02:44:49 AM »
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Originally posted by cpxxx

You know I just can't buy the idea that we white males are being discriminated against . It's BS of the highest order.  Look around you, who owns everything, runs everything, has the most money?

Yes, white males.  Not all of us of course.    But the good old white males pretty much  control the world.

It always makes me laugh when I read stuff like that.





You obviously didn’t read the article. This is a story about an individual act of discrimination. The conclusion of the U.S. Education Department's Office of Civil Rights was that the English professor illegally subjected the student to "intentional discrimination and harassment" because he was "a white, heterosexual Christian male" who expressed disapproval of homosexuality.

So you may not "buy into the idea that white males get discriminated against" but apparently the U.S. Education Department's Office of Civil Rights does. However, their ruling wasn’t made on behalf of all white males but on the specific instance of this student and the English professor.

She declared in an email that because this "perfect example of privilege" "created a hostile environment" she felt the need to "protect that space (classroom) from further violence." The “violence” being his disagreement with her premise that as a heterosexual white male he was "threatened” by homosexuals.  

She sent emails out to all her students calling the guy a "racist, sexist, and/or heterosexist". There was even a hint of a threat in that email:

"that a white, heterosexual, Christian male, one who vehemently denied his privilege last week insisting that he earned all he has, can feel entitled to make violent, heterosexist comments and not feel marked or threatened or vulnerable is what privilege makes possible."

In short "how dare he think that he can get away with thinking and stating that...?”

As a result he was threatened and his car vandalized.

On your point of “who owns what” there is no collective guilt for offensives made by past generations. Because Leroy didn’t get a job 50 years ago or because he descended from a slave doesn’t give him any more “rights” then me or anyone else. Just because others in my racial group may "own more" doesn’t mean I shouldn't be given an equal opportunity to earn my own. You can't collectively punish folks for things they haven’t done. What you can do is make judgments on individual instances and make corrections. The solution to past racism isn’t more racism.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2004, 08:24:42 AM »
cpx... are you advocating discrimination?  do you believe that it is ok to treat one group differently than another based soley on race?   perhaps it is ok to discriminate based on.... economics?   The end justifies the means?

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2004, 09:02:26 AM »
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Originally posted by cpxxx
You know I just can't buy the idea that we white males are being discriminated against . It's BS of the highest order.  Look around you, who owns everything, runs everything, has the most money?

Yes, white males.  Not all of us of course.    But the good old white males pretty much  control the world.

It always makes me laugh when I read stuff like that.



Lazs beat me to it, you made a bigoted statement.  It is wrongly discriminatory to treat someone either negatively or positively based on their gender or race. Whatever happened to individual rights?
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« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2004, 10:59:50 AM »
"Yes, white males. Not all of us of course. But the good old white males pretty much control the world. "

   That's fine with me...  Will I get something in the mail that tells me what parts mine?  

I don't want some place that's too cold or damp.  Something in the Atlantic with a  nice white sand beach would be fine as long as it's on the West side of the island....    And running water....

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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2004, 11:50:21 AM »
Ok I see some nice sophistry going on.  LOL. I think some of you are buying into the victimhood culture that some of you accuse others of.
You know the sort of thing: 'I didn't get that job/college course/club membership because of the colour of my skin or gender'.  I often felt it must be great to be of some 'discriminated' against minority or whatever. Because all my failings could be explained away as somebody else's fault.  Well I don't know about you but I take ownership for my failures.  I suspect most of you do too.

Yes that was an obvious example of discrimination against a white man and it was duly recognised and it amply demonstrated that racism and bigotry is not the sole preserve of us white guys.  That is the irony which perhaps Ms Curtis may or not be aware of at this stage.  But I suspect, true to form, she believes she is now the victim.  But the system works, he complained and got his justification.

Yes I know most of us here are not rich, have power or own lots of land. But I say again look around you. Who does have the power?  Start at the top.
White males are here to stay for all sorts of reason I won't go into. You know what I'm talking about!

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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2004, 04:23:55 PM »
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« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2004, 04:57:22 PM »
cpxxx, we are talking about a specific incident and the ruling authority agreed that this was a case of racial and gender discrimination. Are you suggesting that this does not exist or only that it cannot be perpetrated against white males?


"An English professor at the University of North Carolina illegally subjected a student to "intentional discrimination and harassment" because he was "a white, heterosexual Christian male" who expressed disapproval of homosexuality, the U.S. Education Department's Office of Civil Rights has ruled."
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2004, 05:13:42 PM »
Jeez, my Professors always subjected me to harrasment because I never showed up for class, was a smart bellybutton when I did, and still managed to ace all my tests....

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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2004, 05:23:59 PM »
let's not make something so simple into something complex.

racial discrimination is still racial discrimination no matter what races are involved.

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« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2004, 05:38:18 PM »
White men are not a race, they are a class, like homosexuals, the disabled and "minority contractors".