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Offline airbumba

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Why I can't land in AH2
« on: September 28, 2004, 08:01:24 AM »
I'm still having trouble landing in AH2....could 've been my training at the Mexican Backhills Aviation School, here's the head trainer comin in now..



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Offline Schutt

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« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2004, 08:55:41 AM »
I have problems there too.

Anyone post an info of how to land correctly? maybe one of the real pilots?

Offline Kweassa

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« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2004, 09:02:57 AM »
Low speed is the key.

 Some planes with high and wide landing gears have no problems at high speed landings. However, planes with narrow landing gears and big props have issues when attempting at speeds over 150mph.

 The speed is too fast, so the plane wants to bounce back up when the wheel touches the ground.

 To lower the speed you need to use flaps, but you can't use landing position(full flaps) when the speed is so high.

 To make it worse, the flaps create additional lift temporarily, which makes it highly likely to make the plane bounve back up and overshoot the runway.

 So your plane doesn't slow down fast enough, to keep the plane down so the wheels can contact the ground and use breaks, you start pushing the stick forward a bit.

 Then bam! In many cases the plane has to maintain nose pitch under the horizon to be kept on the ground, which is when the props strike. Also, since the tail gears aren't touching the ground it also wants to ground loop

 ...

 Ofcourse, that's what usually happens with me in a 109. Why the Ta152H with a nice, tall, wide landing gear wants to topsy-turvy so much, I don't quite understand.

Offline DREDIOCK

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« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2004, 09:06:32 AM »
What do you fly? some planes seem to have an easier time landing then others.
I know I would almost swear the 190's have superballs for tires sometimes where I can land american planes smooth as silk.

I like to come in around 150 with flaps or jussst above stallspeed
Watch your altimeter as well as the runway  you want your rate of decent  to be as little as possible on touchdown

Im not a real pilot but thats how I do it within the game
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Offline nsty1

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2004, 09:36:43 AM »
25% flaps, trim your elevators down,as soon as wheels are about to touch,throttle down,pull back slightly,presto,on the ground.this works for me

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2004, 09:49:24 AM »
Here's what I do.

I use flaps to help slow me down , and normally land with 3 notches of flap. Keep lowering them as your speed drops.

Gear down at 160 mph (this will help slow you down as well due to the increased drag).

As I cross the threshold of the runway I like to see my airspeed at no faster than 110 mph and no slower than 100 mph.

Once you cross the threshold you should be pretty close to your touchdown point, and flaring a few feet above the pavement.

Now if all is done correctly you should settle on the deck at between 90 and 100 mph. As soon as you are on the deck you will decelerate pretty rapidly. Pull back on the stick to lock the tail wheel (it will help you track straight). Steer to maintain centerline by using differential braking (the C and V keys) or use rudder.

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Offline Karnak

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2004, 10:28:23 AM »
I use hard rudder to slow the aircraft down on approach, dropping flaps and gear as the speed lowers.  Once I'm down to about 100mph I let up on the rudders and line up on the runway.  If I have the altitude right I won't gain much or any speed at this point, then it is just a matter of gently touching down.  If the stall buffeting is happening when the wheels touch the ground and there is no jarring impact I know I've done it right.
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Offline Blammo

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« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2004, 11:14:34 AM »
Landing?
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Offline FiLtH

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« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2004, 11:29:08 AM »
Everyone knows the hood of a Toyota pickup truck is too small an area to land on!!

  Seriously if you cant land...leave the wheels up and ditch on the runway...works if you are fast too.

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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2004, 11:47:57 AM »
Really? You guys cant land?

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« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2004, 11:58:46 AM »
Speed below 120.  I land at 100 or less at toch down.
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Offline dragoon

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« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2004, 12:21:38 PM »
i got bord of landing so i come in at 300 mph and skid to a halt. sometimes when im feeling frisky....after i touch down i turn left on the stick and it makes ya do a sideways skid. and if ya really bord do a 360 on the runway while you are skidding lol.

course when ya gotta hotpad, ya gotta land wheels down.

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« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2004, 01:44:32 PM »
im with dragoon, with the new ditching models i come in full throttle at around 350 and rip off my wings as i dramatically skid to a halt. I then climb out like nuthings happend throw the key to valet parker and tell him to get me good spot.:aok

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« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2004, 03:12:05 PM »
I've been flying with the Radish king for years, and all the landing advice in the world wont help him. For the advice to have any effect,  believe you need to get away from bad guys and back to base.  bumba when was the last time you got within 10k of returning home. usually he is pouring cocktails in the tower as we reappear in the tower.:rolleyes:

And bumba that plane looks alot like yours and is that a labatts blue I see in the winshield
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Offline debuman

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« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2004, 03:30:50 PM »
On downwind, speed under 160, 1 notch of flaps.  Turn onto base, speed at about 120, 2 notches of flaps.  Turn onto final, lower one more notch of flaps, flare just as you pass the end of the runway.  Remember - flying's easy, landings are the hardest part!