Author Topic: Sometimes I wish I was American. (Read 1775 times)

lazs2 · « **Reply #45 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:23:48 AM »

I don't think that any of those people would enjoy shooting babies. I could be wrong but I doubt it... I don't think you would find people to bond with there aks...

perhaps you should seek companionship at planned parenthood?

lazs

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #46 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:24:22 AM »

I had a fetus milkshake for breakfast. They are just handing 'em out at some clinic.
-SW

deSelys · « **Reply #47 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:25:51 AM »

Lazs, don't jump to such stretched up conclusions...you sound like a woman.

I don't think that anybody said that this is morally wrong, nor that you have to be a bad person to enjoy this. I prefer to see those folks making an awful racket and dig holes in the sand with .50s than blowing up prairie dogs for fun and then put gory vids on the intardnet.

In my case, I only find this mildly fun. I'm certainly not ready to pay a lot of money to be still blowing cordite out of my nose when I sneeze 2 days later.
I rate it just above dressing up and throwing ping-pong balls at another big guy wearing synthetic fur while yelling "lightning bolt! lightning bolt!". But that's just me...

Dago · « **Reply #48 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:28:59 AM »

I see a few of you lack the simple decency to understand why I did not care for nilsens comments.

He is judging and insulting people he knows nothing about. He is slamming some of my countrymen for the simple reason that doing so makes him feel a little better about himself.

I know a few things about these people just from watching the video:

1) They are law abiding people, this can be assured because to own a Class 3 automatic weapon you need federal approval, and criminals don't get that.

2) They are bright enough to go through the process, it isn't anywhere near as easy as going to the local gun store and simply plopping down some cash

3) They are employed in good jobs, as buying and shooting those weapons is not a cheap hobby, so to do so means you have a pretty fair income and can budget your money well.

But, Nilsen feels that he has the right to degrade these people in front of others for his own amusement. I find that offensive and typical of a number of euroclowns.

I have tried to understand and not judge people who enjoy or participate in hobbies and interests that don't appeal to me, I think nilsen would be a better person if he were to try to do that same.

dago

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:30:06 AM »

deselys... don't jump to conclusions... I didn't claim that anyone had said it was "morally wrong" I simply repeated what they said that it was a "waste".

I find buying all the gear and fishing and throwing back the fish kinda boring and stupid but.... it is not a "waste" if the person enjoys it. It is not a waste to shoot if you enjoy it. And.... I think everyone should know how and I think that shooting firearms confirms they are not the toys you see in the movies....

all good things.

lazs

straffo · « **Reply #50 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:39:10 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Why is burning powder and lead a "waste" while burning huge amounts of fuel to get to a mountain and run ski lifts etc is not a waste? or buying a huge gas guzzling boat to just ride around in or catch fish and throw em back or water ski behind is not a waste?

It's not a waste if you enjoy it.

Anyone who claims it is a "waste" eiother has no hobbies or is a hypocrite.

lazs

What make you think they didn't already wasted huge amount of fuel to get to the range ? (that's just provocative

)

I say it's waste because when I was shooting the aim was to but all the bullet in the tightest area (and preferably on the target

)
Not to make earthwork or change the landscape using guns.

lazs2 · « **Reply #51 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:41:02 AM »

so... anyone who doesn't have your kind of fun is a "waste"?

lazs

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #52 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:45:12 AM »

It's a waste if it isn't getting me dinner.
-SW

deSelys · « **Reply #53 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:45:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Dago

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1) They are law abiding people, this can be assured because to own a Class 3 automatic weapon you need federal approval, and criminals don't get that.

2) They are bright enough to go through the process, it isn't anywhere near as easy as going to the local gun store and simply plopping down some cash

3) They are employed in good jobs, as buying and shooting those weapons is not a cheap hobby, so to do so means you have a pretty fair income and can budget your money well.

...
I have tried to understand and not judge people who enjoy or participate in hobbies and interests that don't appeal to me, I think nilsen would be a better person if he were to try to do that same.

dago

Those are hastily drawn conclusions IMO...

1) Ok...or more exactly they've never been caught (I'm not implying that some of them are bank robbers but there are so many ways to break the law...)

2) Ahum...how bright exactly do you have to be? Again I don't mean that they are all morons, but you don't have to be ultra smart to shoot like they do.
Or are there hard exams to get the license for a full-auto weapon? I honestly don't know...

3) That is a really weak point. You should know that you don't have to be bright or honest to earn or own a lot of money...

You're right about not making fun from other people's fun, but in all honesty everybody does it to some extent (don't get me started about fishing and golf

). The point is that you reacted very heavily to a mild sting.

But I think that we all agree on this: those people aren't hurting anyone doing this, so why should they be deprived of their fun?

straffo · « **Reply #54 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:47:09 AM »

Perhaps the word I've used to translate is not very pertinent/accurate.

Please note that I'm not refering to the people but their action.

I don't mind if someone is shooting 10 or 1000 bullet ,but full auto is IMO just reserved to supressive fire and so to the military.

They can afford the ammo ... good for them
But firing blank would have been equally noisy and less dangerous.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #55 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:47:13 AM »

And think about how many poor helpless earthworms are being slaughtered by this senseless hail of steel and explosives. Not to mention those cute little rodents scurrying for their lives because of the earth exploding around them.

Those people are sick and demented, slaughting those poor defenseless creatures wholesale and getting off on it.
-SW

lazs2 · « **Reply #56 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:49:22 AM »

"But I think that we all agree on this: those people aren't hurting anyone doing this, so why should they be deprived of their fun?"

exactly.

I don't think I reacted strongly at all.

lazs

straffo · « **Reply #57 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:51:19 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
"But I think that we all agree on this: those people aren't hurting anyone doing this, so why should they be deprived of their fun?"

exactly.

I don't think I reacted strongly at all.

lazs

Neither do I ,at least it was not my intention.

deSelys · « **Reply #58 on:** September 29, 2004, 08:52:15 AM »

I was replying to dago you old Harley-Davidson drag-queen!

Nilsen · « **Reply #59 on:** September 29, 2004, 09:06:25 AM »

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Originally posted by Dago
I see a few of you lack the simple decency to understand why I did not care for nilsens comments.

He is judging and insulting people he knows nothing about. He is slamming some of my countrymen for the simple reason that doing so makes him feel a little better about himself.

I know a few things about these people just from watching the video:

1) They are law abiding people, this can be assured because to own a Class 3 automatic weapon you need federal approval, and criminals don't get that.

2) They are bright enough to go through the process, it isn't anywhere near as easy as going to the local gun store and simply plopping down some cash

3) They are employed in good jobs, as buying and shooting those weapons is not a cheap hobby, so to do so means you have a pretty fair income and can budget your money well.

But, Nilsen feels that he has the right to degrade these people in front of others for his own amusement. I find that offensive and typical of a number of euroclowns.

I have tried to understand and not judge people who enjoy or participate in hobbies and interests that don't appeal to me, I think nilsen would be a better person if he were to try to do that same.

dago

Hmm...