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Offline Martlet

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« Reply #30 on: September 30, 2004, 10:12:22 PM »
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Yeah but you gotta admit Martlet - yer goofin' was reduced to slim pickins tonight.


Hey, any time Bush opens his mouth and it takes less than 30 seconds for his brain to catch up, I'm a happy guy.

Here's another great line:

"what is he going to say, please come help us out with our great diversion?"
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Offline Nash

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« Reply #31 on: September 30, 2004, 10:17:23 PM »
Yeah that's what you wanna see inna Prez...

Taken to its logical conclusion; wind the guy up and let him speak for 30 minutes straight and his brain will only be involved in a coupla seconds of it.

Know what?

Along with the undecided voters, I gotta feeling - whether you admit it or not - that a bunch of you learned a lot more about Kerry tonight than you knew before tonight.
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« Reply #32 on: September 30, 2004, 10:20:07 PM »
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Along with the undecided voters, I gotta feeling - whether you admit it or not - that a bunch of you learned a lot more about Kerry tonight than you knew before tonight.


I'm from Boston.  I think I have a pretty good handle on Kerry.

Like I said, I think it's a wash.  No votes moved tonight.

Right now, a wash is a win for Bush.
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« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2004, 10:22:08 PM »
The scorecard says...

kerry = i'm not bush

bush = what you see is what you get



Serious questions for Nash, et al.

Aren't there other more important attributes for a President rather than whether or not he is good at public speaking?

How does Kerry show good leadership skills?

You seem to be implying that Bush does not having leadership skills.  How so?

Everyone knows how Bush stands on the issues.  Doesn't it concern you that no one seems to know how Kerry stands on the issues?

Doesn't Kerry just simply look like Treebeard the Ent from Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers?  Come on, you really want him as president?
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« Reply #34 on: September 30, 2004, 10:23:05 PM »
I thought both were dissapointing,

Both repeated what they said numerous times, Kerry couldnt land the hit I really thought was gonna happen and Bush just couldnt say what he could have said that in my eyes would make him look better than Kerry.

Both fouled up Saddam and Osama in the first 20 minutes, They both just seemed like Broken Records. Kerry's remark on giving the Iranians Nuclear Fuel and making sure they "be good" with it was possibly the most stupidest thing my ears have ever heard.But as I said earlier, Bush just couldnt seem to land anything I was interested in hearing.

I'm interested in the Vice Debate, I'm sure all watch all of them.

My Score-

Kerry 5
Bush 4
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« Reply #35 on: September 30, 2004, 10:26:04 PM »
Will one of you Kerry loving homos please tell me what this means: John Kerry:  ".....left us in shatters"
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« Reply #36 on: September 30, 2004, 10:27:07 PM »
Bah, soccer practice with the kids...
Sounds like if "Bush wept" then that just swung 12% of the soccer mom votes to his side ;)

We"ll call him "George Winfrey"  after he's re-elected :)
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« Reply #37 on: September 30, 2004, 10:30:55 PM »
Drunky - as soon as you start comparing the appearence of the president or potential president to... what, a monkey? a tree? a robot?

...is the minute I kinda tune out.

Read my lips - You will not have to have sex with either of them.

I have a few ugly friends... at least I think so... But like... what does that even mean?

Moving on...

Yes there are more important attributes than speaking effectively in public.

But not many.

Because the words you choose are the words you mean. And are the thoughts you think. No divorcing that.

Bush doesn't have "leadership abilities" (even though I was goofin' on that) because he is dumb enough to latch onto the wrong things.

He doesn't lead. Don't kid yerselves. He gets lead.

What else? Oh Treebeard... again, I dunno about all that...
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« Reply #38 on: September 30, 2004, 10:32:51 PM »
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Ask them to come join us in our "great diversion"?
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« Reply #39 on: September 30, 2004, 10:36:15 PM »
I give it very slightly to Kerry. If Bush could speak, he'd have come out a lot better.

Kerry's "I have a plan" reminded me of Nixon. Yeah... guess what... we've ALL got plans, buddy. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Telling me you've got one too doesn't really impress me. He didn't impress me with his thoughts or "plans" but he does speak much more effectively than Bush.

Bush just stumbles around when speaking. He can't organize his thoughts and vocally express them clearly on short notice. I do think he knows what he wants to say but man, it must have to run quite an obstacle course from the brain to the vocal cords. It can be like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
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« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2004, 10:40:02 PM »
Train wreck.... what an apt description if there ever was one.
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« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2004, 10:51:12 PM »
I think Bush looked tired toward the end.   I think kerrie won on a strict debate sense but...

I think that in those swing states.... the people thought they were looking at a slick politician when they looked at kerrie and someone more like themselves when they looked at Bush.   I think all the metropolitan taxi riding broadway show going ameristalker, apartrment dwellers thought, and still think, that the debate winning college style is all that counts.   Bush still resonates to the middle American after the debate.

kerrie played to the people who allready are desperately wanting him to look good in the debates.

least that is how I saw it.

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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2004, 10:57:48 PM »
As far is this debate, the polls, this election goes.... it comes down to one single thing.

A referendum on the job Bush has done.

In order to toss out the person responsible for such a horrible job, the public needs to see a viable alternative.

Not an inspirational one. Not a brilliant one. Just a viable one.

Up to now, the viability of Kerry was in question...

It is no longer in question.

He is viable. Clearly.  And hundreds of thousands of people who only knew Kerry through ads are saying to themselves "Wow, it turns out that there IS a choice here."

That's all Kerry needed - and it's what he got.
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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2004, 11:00:05 PM »
Kerry smoked him, but I think lazs is probably right. Kerry probably won back the democrats he had been losing. He needs to pull a trifecta to swing the undecided voters. All in all a win for Kerry, but not a knockout.
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« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2004, 11:00:55 PM »
None of this proves that Kerry is viable, it only proves the obvious, that Kerry is a better speaker.

The impact of this debate, IMO, will be to fire up Kerry supporters moreso than bring in  significant numbers of new ones.

I'm still not enthusiastic about either candidate...
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